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Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Intense Singer on Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:57 pm

He gave an incredible talk at my school the other evening. He didn't say anything new, but he said it well, and it was all things we needed to hear. If you vote CRAP, you'll have to work hard to justify it to me.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Nina on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:11 pm

I've seen him speak a couple of times. I'd be hard pressed to think of anyone who can captivate and audience as well as Dr. West. Highly engaging, intelligent as fuck, gave Summers the finger and left Harvard, spoke out against Obama's Nobel Prize. He does a decent job of walking his talk, from what I can tell. The one area I'd like to see him become more vocal is in his dissatisfaction with the current administration. He touches on it frequently, but I think his friendship with Obama prevents him from being as forthright about his objections as he is with all other subject matters.

His new radio show with Travis Smiley has been good the few times I've heard it.

And damn! Dude pulls off the 3 piece suit like no other (with the exception of Faiz, of course).

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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby iembalm on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:32 pm

Nina wrote:I've seen him speak a couple of times. I'd be hard pressed to think of anyone who can captivate and audience as well as Dr. West. Highly engaging, intelligent as fuck, gave Summers the finger and left Harvard, spoke out against Obama's Nobel Prize. He does a decent job of walking his talk, from what I can tell. The one area I'd like to see him become more vocal is in his dissatisfaction with the current administration. He touches on it frequently, but I think his friendship with Obama prevents him from being as forthright about his objections as he is with all other subject matters.

His new radio show with Travis Smiley has been good the few times I've heard it.

And damn! Dude pulls off the 3 piece suit like no other (with the exception of Faiz, of course).

Dr. Cornel "Pimp Daddy" West = not crap

I really don't want to come off as getting in your business, but is there a female intellectual that you would describe as _____ "Sexy Bitch" ______?

And you know, I'm white, male and middle class, so I really don't have a foot to stand on as far as any kind of moral coutcry, and that's not how I want to come off. But it seems a particularly odd thing to attach to West, considering.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Nina on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:38 pm

iembalm wrote:
Nina wrote:I've seen him speak a couple of times. I'd be hard pressed to think of anyone who can captivate and audience as well as Dr. West. Highly engaging, intelligent as fuck, gave Summers the finger and left Harvard, spoke out against Obama's Nobel Prize. He does a decent job of walking his talk, from what I can tell. The one area I'd like to see him become more vocal is in his dissatisfaction with the current administration. He touches on it frequently, but I think his friendship with Obama prevents him from being as forthright about his objections as he is with all other subject matters.

His new radio show with Travis Smiley has been good the few times I've heard it.

And damn! Dude pulls off the 3 piece suit like no other (with the exception of Faiz, of course).

Dr. Cornel "Pimp Daddy" West = not crap

I really don't want to come off as getting in your business, but is there a female intellectual that you would describe as _____ "Sexy Bitch" ______?


Jesus fucking christ.

Sure, um, Naomi Klein is pretty hot from what I can remember.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Nina on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:43 pm

iembalm wrote:. But it seems a particularly odd thing to attach to West, considering.


"Considering" what?

I don't know about you, but I rarely see men dressed in a full three piece anymore. He always looks impeccable. What's the problem?
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby iembalm on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:49 pm

Nina wrote:
iembalm wrote:. But it seems a particularly odd thing to attach to West, considering.


"Considering" what?

I don't know about you, but I rarely see men dressed in a full three piece anymore. He always looks impeccable. What's the problem?

It was probably my white male middle-classness that prevented me from realizing you were tacking that onto the 3-piece, and I apologize.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Nina on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:54 pm

No worries.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby jurgis rudkus on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:29 pm

I like his substance but dislike his style.

I feel like he's mocking or talking down to his audience, what with the exaggerated gestures, ostentatious appearance (the clothes, but the 'radical' hair, too) and his preachin'-style showboating.

Obviously likes being a celebrity, which is pretty crass. I just always feel like he's much more into himself than he is the issues. Maybe he really thinks that's the way to draw people into the discussion, I don't know.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Antero on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:04 pm

iembalm wrote:
Nina wrote:Dr. Cornel "Pimp Daddy" West = not crap

I really don't want to come off as getting in your business, but is there a female intellectual that you would describe as _____ "Sexy Bitch" ______?

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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby hauteblooded on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:18 pm

Crap.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby gcbv on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:20 pm

hauteblooded wrote:Crap.



....because?
But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby hauteblooded on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:42 pm

gcbv wrote:
hauteblooded wrote:Crap.



....because?


For someone who hates capitalism so much, he sure whores himself out a lot. He also has chastised black folks for wanting to live in white neighborhoods yet his neighborhood is 1% black.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby krs on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:48 pm

hauteblooded wrote:
gcbv wrote:
hauteblooded wrote:Crap.



....because?


For someone who hates capitalism so much, he sure whores himself out a lot.


Democratic Socialism is not necessarily anti-Capitalism.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby hauteblooded on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:50 pm

"Free -market fundamentalism trivializes the concern for public interest . It puts fear and
insecurity in the hearts of anxiety - ridden workers . It also
makes money - driven , poll- obsessed elected officials
deferential to corporate goals of profit — often at the cost
of the common good. "
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby krs on Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:11 pm

hauteblooded wrote:"Free -market fundamentalism trivializes the concern for public interest . It puts fear and
insecurity in the hearts of anxiety - ridden workers . It also
makes money - driven , poll- obsessed elected officials
deferential to corporate goals of profit — often at the cost
of the common good. "


Opposition to Free Market fundamentalism is not necessarily anti-Capitalism either. It just means that a person is opposed to markets without rules. I think you misunderstand what he is saying in the quote.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby gcbv on Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:44 pm

hauteblooded wrote:"Free -market fundamentalism trivializes the concern for public interest . It puts fear and
insecurity in the hearts of anxiety - ridden workers . It also
makes money - driven , poll- obsessed elected officials
deferential to corporate goals of profit — often at the cost
of the common good. "


How exactly is that applicable to your dislike of him for taking money for speaking engagements?

And you are aware that "capitalism" isn't broadly defined as "free market" by default?
But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby jimmy two hands on Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:06 pm

I remember seeing a talk of his during the 2000 presidential race endorsing Nader and it was a really good speech. I bought the Cornel West Reader later on that year and it was mostly a bunch of christian philosophical gobbledegook with a few good points interspersed throughout on left-liberal politics and why race matters in public debates. So as Awesome: Cornel West, Crap. Regular: Cornel West, Not Crap.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby enframed on Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:06 pm

I used to follow him a little but lost interest in him after recognizing him in one of The Matrix films.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby jimmy two hands on Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:15 pm

enframed wrote:I used to follow him a little but lost interest in him after recognizing him in one of The Matrix films.

Was that really him, because it looked exactly like him.
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Re: Awesome: Cornel West

Postby Robert G on Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:15 pm

jimmy two hands wrote:
enframed wrote:I used to follow him a little but lost interest in him after recognizing him in one of The Matrix films.

Was that really him, because it looked exactly like him.


Yes, he was in the last two Matrix films.

jurgis rudkus wrote:I like his substance but dislike his style.


Yeah, we need more boring, drab intellectuals like Chomsky who do not engage anyone at all except for other boring, drab intellectuals.
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