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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby iembalm on Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:21 pm

Marillion, Clutching at Straws
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby crispy on Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:09 pm

Strapping Young Lad - City
Gnaw Their Tongues - any album
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby sulfur)addict on Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:20 am

Albert Ayler's last two. He only sings twice and both times it can crush you.

Kristin Hersh has/had the ability to write madness in a way that was so violently real that if she would've pursued it, she could've written the soundtrack to suicides. As it stands, she's far too sweet and human to lend her talent over to such a stupid concept, and as blessed as the world is for every song she penned as she approached the darkest sides of her psyche, we're infinitely more blessed that she penned fun ones, cowpunk tunes, songs about triumph, living, celebrating, goofiness, and coming to terms with oneself.

But yeah, an entire album of "The Letter" or "Delicate Cutters" or god help us "Hate My Way" would be devastating. I know she hates that her music can have that effect, and to me that makes her a good egg.

I think that's what a lot of these bands being mentioned are missing - the understanding of what they're trying to accomplish and what it says and how it's ultimately too fucking sad and useless to repeatedly dig at it. Some people fall apart while making art, others beg for it to happen to them.


Sister Lovers is the former, but what might be most interesting is how technically accomplished it is while still falling apart. A testament to Chilton's talent, really.

I Am The Cosmos just makes me sad. About four of those songs are instant mood killers.

A solid 1/3 of the lyrics to Manic Street Preachers' The Holy Bible are the most eloquent descriptions of self-hatred and isolation I've heard put into songs. Another 1/3 is strictly political. That last 1/3 is Nicky's contribution.

I like the understanding Jason Molina and Vic Chesnutt bring to the table when they'd write darker songs. No glory in the hurt for either of them. Townes Van Zandt might glorify it a bit, but he makes sure to balance it with songs describing the simple beauty of being alive.

Can't help but equate Hank Sr. with pain. There's an occasional breath of humor, but it just feels like a flat joke to stave off the pain for a moment.

Nico as a voice, a lyricist, a songwriter, and a person seemed geared to brave the imminence of madness, sickness, and death.

Elliott Smith wrote "Everything Means Nothing To Me" in one sitting after a three day binge which he capped off by carving the word "now" into his arm and sitting down at a piano to write a song. Any time I remember that anecdote I'm just reminded of how . . . bleak that is.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby flytox on Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:32 am

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby aldofarian on Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:19 am

The one Lift to Experience record is a good example of a guy going quite potty in a beautiful way. This is how it ends:

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The "hear my train a comin' " part from the 10:00ish mark had a much bigger gap on the original release.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby Beetown on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:13 am

Divine Styler - Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light.

Most insane hip-hop album ever.

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby brisket on Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:15 pm

In a jauntier kind of way, this is batshit insane. This song really spoke to me for a few months I spent perpetually drunk in stinking-hot Melbourne during a slow-motion relationship breakdown -- y'know, one of those phases where you know shit's gonna hit the fan and an absurd kind of cheerful pessimism sets in.

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which was about the same time I wrote this
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby amplituden on Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:59 pm

I can't find a stream of it but the final Red Red Meat album " There's A Star Above the Manger Tonight" is a pretty amazing document of the band sort of exploding into different avenues.

There are some really pretty weird folky parts like the title track, and then these really dissonant scary sounding instrumental tracks like " Paul Pachal " that somehow work together.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby goatlord on Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:12 am

This record reminds me of someone freezing to death on Versailles, while ghosts of the 20th century worst massacres and tragedies haunt his half sleep-half awaken mind. There is this crazy and dark ultra-european feel, kind of like the most down parts of Gravity's Rainbow. Cold, rain, some snow, crumbling on a beautifully decayed floor, going slowly insane in autumn.

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby first2letters on Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:16 am

I've never taken psychedelics because I don't think I'm together enough to handle it -- and also because I imagine it would feel something like this:

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby zircona1 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:47 am

I think Boredoms' Pop Tatari has to be the most insane album I've ever heard, not sure what the mental state of Eye and Co. were at that time.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby Redline on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:48 am

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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby Defender on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:54 am

first2letters wrote:I've never taken psychedelics because I don't think I'm together enough to handle it -- and also because I imagine it would feel something like this:

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no, psychedelics could be described many different ways but not as annoying or goofy.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby SkronkFronkerdale on Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:34 pm

Hi, How Are You by Daniel Johnston is the only album I know of where the artist was explicitly going insane and expressing it through the music. Hard to do that in a music industry setting, whereas Daniel was recording in the very moments of his downfall. This gives the "Going Insane" aspect of the music an immediacy that isn't really found elsewhere, as he was charting his path as it happened in the order it happened. It makes it the most genuine document of a man losing his grip on sanity(that I know of, anyway), and to me, the quintessential "Going Insane" album. It sounds like you can even hear him coming out of it at the end. "Walking the Cow" is my favorite song of his, and one of my favorite songs ever.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby tomato1342 on Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:25 pm

If you must know, i think you'll find "berserker" by scratch acid quite satisfactory.
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Re: Best "Going Insane" Album

Postby SecondEdition on Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:48 pm

Albums that best reflect the artist's own descent into insanity:

Oar
The Madcap Laughs

Standard choices for a reason.

Albums that best explore insanity from a conceptual standpoint:

Six and Six
The Line To The Men's Room

Knowing what you want to express that clearly can sometimes seem crazy to other people.

Albums that have soundtracked my own experiences with insanity:

Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill
Bach: Cello Suites

At those times, reality was unmanageably repulsive, and I needed something soothing.
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