joelb wrote:That would be a stupid move for a team like the Wings unless it's for two truly elite talents - which Parise and Suter are not.
joelb wrote:I never said "team like the Wings"
joelb wrote:I never suggested I wanted Holland to go after Parise like that. Suter, yes.
So when you said that a team like the Wings shouldn't pay for middling talent like Suter, you meant they aren't somehow special and should. Got it.
joelb wrote:Gaping holes on 1st line D, yeah.
Losing Lids and Stuart removes the core of their top 2 D. And the remaining parts of that top 2 lines are White and Kronwall. I'm sure Kindl and Ericcson will be fine filling in, though. Or maybe Smith?
There is no defense there. The Wild's D make that group look like beer league drop-outs.
joelb wrote:Others, what? Forwards? The league is sloppy with available forwards and we already have superstars on the roster and lots of money to play with.
Datsyuk is great. Zeterberg is getting old and has had mediocre seasons for the last few years. Filpula might be good, might not - you'll never know until it happens. Franzen will not be. Bertuzzi has no business being on one of the top 2 lines.
Not sure what free agents are going to come in and fix that, what with all the availability and all the Wings money rolling around. Ryan won't sign there, Semin might but he's a liability in his own end (not good considering the D core)... Nash won't happen. Doan might (that'd be pretty sweet!), but he'd likely cost too much...
But at least they brought back Samuelsson. He's going to make you miss Hudler.
I'm curious who you see coming in and making this team better, because I'm drawing a blank. 3rd and 4th lines look acceptable, but there's not much in that top 6 that's going to make up for what you've lost.
joelb wrote:I never said "team like the Wings" but since you asked - that would be a team with financial stability,
True of 28/30 teams.
Let's say 25/30. I'm waffling on whether this is true for the Wings, since I don't see Illich spending to the cap, which is the very definition of an owner being committed. He's certainly not going to shell out for a new stadium any time soon, and the Joe kinda sucks.
world-class management and coaching,
Babcock's definitely high end, but Kenny's not by a long shot.
30/30 teams have that, so whatever.
and an expectation and tradition of winning.
They shouldn't expect
to win anything this year. They might have a "tradition of winning" but that doesn't mean anything to anybody joining the team now.
It's not like they are the only team that fits this description, but the Wild ain't one,
The Wild are most certainly one of the 25+ teams that fits that description. And unlike the Wings they have a competitive roster and should expect to win.
I like Detroit in all honesty, but they're not a cup contender this year. The Wild have improved over the last few seasons, and looking forward have the potential to be pretty good. There's a good chance they'll be contenders over the next few years. They needed to make changes and did. Detroit needed to make changes and hasn't.
Time for some street hockey.