Ptommydski wrote:madmanmunt wrote:People doing cunty things can/should be called out on their cuntery, male or female.
Making comments about a vaudevillian's (your word) presentation of themselves, in their public works, is perfectly acceptable as far as I am concerned.
Quite, it's about personal perspective. Your comments are fair and I understand your stance within reason.
I used to use this defence a lot too and it served me well for years. The idea that if it's okay to call Billy Corgan names, we should be able to call Amanda Palmer names too. That's how equality works, no?
Not quite. The issue is that this is a male dominated environment whereby we dramatically outnumber women. The unnecessarily hostile language which sometimes gets directed at women can legitimately drive females away from threads, the forum, the community. Women who have brilliant insight and genuinely interesting perspectives, which we subsequently seldom or never get to hear. Sadly I know this from personal experience.
I liked using aggressive invective, "male gazing" and faux-misogyny for a long while because I assumed it was harmless and all in the spirit of fun. However, it took a few people to point out that if it's the prevalent attitude on a heavily male dominated forum, it can create an atmosphere which is uncomfortably close to real misogyny. Thus, I sort of had to do the internal mathematics regarding whether I liked calling women cunts or making comments about their appearance more than I liked female friends feeling comfortable here.
Each to their own though, obviously.
From my view here's the dope:
There's always going to be dumbass mysogynits on this fourm. I think a lot of vag badge's know this.
You can fight their mysogyny with some sanguine barbs, which is what I try to do when I have to to actually post on here (sporadically at best, mostly when drunk). Frankly, when it somes to the sexist shit, I don't mind getting to ice queen levels of zingery or even trolling you fucks. If any of you want to pin me down on this, I just know it when I see it. And fuck you too.
99%, nah, let's make that 100% of the time, when there's some bullshit about the look of a chick being discussed than her actual ability as a musician, there are times when the people on EA with penises desrve the most sub-zero sanguine responses from people with actual vages when they are being sexist shits. Raise the bar shitheads. Oh yeah, and no one cares about your "honest" responses about your objectivity of females.
You guys don't want to know some of the shit I want to post but think better of it after a night's sleep when on the subject of WYMYN...
...it has mainly to do with breast cancer, AIDS and the prospect of you mysogynists having actual daughters....