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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby madmanmunt on Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:16 pm

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Sorry, should have maybe put it here: Songs warn of Ebola
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby lumpenprole on Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:29 pm

Dallas, eh?

So is Ebola now Kennedy's Revenge?
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby davesec on Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:49 pm

first y2k, then obama, and now ebola, or as i like to call, i told you so
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby dontfeartheringo on Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:27 am

madlee wrote:This guy flew over without any symptoms, arrived and was fine for a few days. Then, he began to feel ill, went to the hospital in Dallas. They checked him out and released him. (???????? west african, just flew over from Liberia, showing symptoms of Ebola and they released him???) He went home and a few days later returned the hospital where he was finally diagnosed a few days later. How many people did he come into contact while he was contagious? They need to be isolated.


I guarantee you that he was turned away from being admitted because..... anyone wanna guess?




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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby tbone on Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:50 am

^^ DING DING DING

Oh man, you guys, on another note, little help here. My brother in law is flying in from Dallas to visit and stay with us next week. Should I greet him at the airport in a hazmat suit and set him on fire when he gets here? I mean, he's a great guy. I like him. But on the other hand, EBOLA!
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby dontfeartheringo on Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:11 am

tbone wrote:^^ DING DING DING

Oh man, you guys, on another note, little help here. My brother in law is flying in from Dallas to visit and stay with us next week. Should I greet him at the airport in a hazmat suit and set him on fire when he gets here? I mean, he's a great guy. I like him. But on the other hand, EBOLA!



Hazmat suit until you're able to get the rectal thermometer in. If he resists or turns out to have a fever, THEN set him on fire.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby Maurice on Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:18 am

Ebola Epidemic is the worst jam band name.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby bishopdante on Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:18 pm

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114069/


Ah the good old days before 9/11 when you could raise sinister subject matter so long as you just slap a "happily ever after" poetic justice ending on it. Happy endings are not something real biological warfare is not known for, blankets from plague hospitals were extensively exploited as standard-issue weapons during the colonial era.

In that movie was it a government doing a false-flag biological weapon blamed on terrorists to excuse a complete suspension of civilian government and putting everybody in camps? That's pretty below-the-belt-subject matter which most government censorship boards would find uncomfortable.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby madlee on Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:23 pm

starting to get a little concerned...
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby lumpenprole on Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:38 am

madlee wrote:starting to get a little concerned...


Well you're definitely going to get it.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby Tom on Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:08 am

This is some scary shit. Not "Holy shit, time to start making ruby ridge babies" scary, but scary.
I get a little annoyed when I hear people say things like
"You know, your measles is much more contagious and your more likely to die from the flu".
No shit, but we have been dealing with measles and the flu for centuries. I think we should be freaking out a little bit if it keeps this thing somewhat contained.
Besides, neither the flu nor measles has a 50% mortality rate. If I get the flu, I'm probably going to be OK. Ebola turns you into jello. That's fucking horrific. Yeah, I'm a little freaked out.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby Cranius on Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:55 am

Maurice wrote:Ebola Epidemic is the worst jam band name.


No that'd be my jam band name, Ebola Hat.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby madlee on Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:57 am

I guess what is alarming to me is the hubris that the USA health system can manage the disease, when all that has happened is that they have simply performed to the best of their capability which has only led to more people being exposed and infected. That the CDC gave the woman permission to board a plane is fucking mindboggling. Is Roger Goodell running the CDC?

We pointed to the countries in West Africa and said, it can't happen here because we have sophisticated technology and established protocols. But, that no longer seems to be the case.

Another problem is that the health system is relying on people "doing the right thing" but we've already seen a fucking medical doctor totally disregard any concern for public safety and Duncan straight up lied on his entry. Do we think that magically, people are going to start behaving correctly when they exhibit symptoms? The more it spreads, the more it mutates, and becomes easier to transmit.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby madlee on Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:00 am

Cranius wrote:
Maurice wrote:Ebola Epidemic is the worst jam band name.


No that'd be my jam band name, Ebola Hat.


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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby jimmy two hands on Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:06 am

It's cause for concern but not widespread panic. I'd be panicking if it could be transmitted by air rather than just direct contact with bodily fluids. If our healthcare system weren't so fucked up, original dude could have survived and there definitely wouldn't have been additional cases popping up.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby taylor swiftboat orgy on Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:22 am

^^plus it only becomes contagious when the symptoms present.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby dontfeartheringo on Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:09 pm

Our healthcare system is about as ramshackle and ineffective as it could be without actually being consciously created to do harm. (But at least it's expensive.)


It's kind of apt that this would happen in Texas: The US State that is the most hostile to centralized management. Also, the hospital where this is happening has been sued multiple times for turning away patients for being uninsured.

This is exactly the epidemic we deserve.

I'd love to read the Danish newspapers' take on all of this.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby madlee on Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:26 pm

Watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ebola-outbreak/

The heroism exhibited by the relief workers/MSF is incredible.

The fear of the general population is palpable, the scene where the patient escapes...this is normal behavior. People should be freaking out.
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Re: Ebola epidemic

Postby lumpenprole on Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:47 pm

dontfeartheringo wrote:Our healthcare system is about as ramshackle and ineffective as it could be without actually being consciously created to do harm. (But at least it's expensive.)


It's kind of apt that this would happen in Texas: The US State that is the most hostile to centralized management. Also, the hospital where this is happening has been sued multiple times for turning away patients for being uninsured.

This is exactly the epidemic we deserve.

I'd love to read the Danish newspapers' take on all of this.


Gah. It's an epidemic in the countries in Africa with the worst health care infrastructure in the world. Even nearby NIgeria is able to deal with outbreak better than Liberia.

Describing it as an epidemic in the US is completely irresponsible. EV-D68 is a lot bigger threat here because it's spreading like mad and there are 7 confirmed fatalities. It's not as splashy (literally), but it's super contagious and hard to identify.

Say what you will about our healthcare system and most of the time I'll agree with you. But we're more than capable of doing the kind of work that will minimize Ebola danger to everyone except front line health care workers. And even they are in less danger than the news would have you believe.

Stop spreading fear. It doesn't help anyone.
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