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Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby ---- on Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:07 pm

Every High on Fire record not engineered by Albini has middling sound quality--The Art of Self Defense and Surrounded By Thieves have unclear "lo-fi" sound and Snakes For The Divine is a typical "major producer" (Greg Fidelman) release with tinny drum sound. Death Is This Communion (Jack Endino) and De Vermis Mysteriis (Converge's Kurt Ballou) fair better, while Luminiferous feels a step back from the drum standpoint, despite having the same producer as the last album. Surprisingly, I consider Spitting Fire Live live release as the band's second strongest by a significant margin because the guitar sound is occasionally lovely.
It was fun to listen High on Fire's discography through once, but Albini's Blessed Black Wings is the only album I return to. Despite being compressed to completely flat dynamic range (presumably by the label), the record is clean and lush.

Is it known why High on Fire decided to move on? Is there potential for the band to return to record their upcoming successor to 2013's Luminiferous to Electrical Audio? I hope that lower-than-expected Pitchfork score didn't have an effect...
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Redline on Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:46 pm

What's a pitchfork?
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby ---- on Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:43 pm

Redline wrote:What's a pitchfork?

I'm referring to the biography on High on Fire's website:

After unleashing one of the most momentous debuts in the history of heavy music with 2000’s The Art Of Self-Defense, High On Fire doubled down in 2002 with the absolutely punishing Surrounded By Thieves, an album that even notoriously finicky music website Pitchfork rated an 8.8 out of 10. “Surrounded By Thieves pushes drones to its limits, with a crushing wall of bass tones guaranteed to alter heart rhythms and weaken building infrastructures,” they gushed, before adding the obvious disclaimer: “If you’ve never experienced street drugs, it’s a safe bet you probably won't enjoy this album.”
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Anthony Flack on Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:26 pm

I think that was Redline's way of saying that everybody should ignore Pitchfork and their opinions.

I dunno, maybe High On Fire would prefer that reviewers stick to talking about the album and not go on and on about the supposed foibles of their recording engineer.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Evin Relocation on Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:36 pm

... hey, Preston leaves your band... then your band's not as good.

Them's the rules.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby AdamN on Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:50 pm

---- wrote:I hope that lower-than-expected Pitchfork score didn't have an effect...


:smt005

Evin Relocation wrote:... hey, Preston leaves your band... then your band's not as good.

Them's the rules.


Psssh, Melvins still killed it with Lori, Mark D. and Kevin on bass.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby uglysound on Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:47 pm

I think the shift from hard rock to metal is far more apparent than the effects of working with different people on the recordings.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Parbuckle on Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:34 pm

---- wrote:Albini's Blessed Black Wings

So THAT'S what he's hiding under that boilersuit.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby biscuitdough on Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:26 am

FMSA is skilled at capturing the live nuance of any band. High on Fire have super fuzzy compressed guitar and bass, and whatever that awful vocal processing is, so what's the point? I really enjoyed the songwriting on the first two and the most recent one, by the way, so aside from whatever the hell he's doing to his vocals, I don't have a lot of creative shit to talk on this band.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Zorg on Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:17 am

He kept making unwanted sexual advances.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby J. Burns on Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:12 pm

You should ask Matt Pike. As far as I know he's not on the forum so I'm not sure how much asking here will help.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby A Landing Craft on Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:31 am

He alienated them by finishing all of his sentences with "I don't use drugs"
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby jbar on Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:49 pm

He accidentally used Joe's fake leg as a croquet mallet.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Facundo on Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:25 pm

There's only a kind of sound which is better than the FM steve's midfi sound, and it is the Albini's MILFY Sound.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby jimmy two hands on Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:21 am

FM steve told them, and I quote, "jazz cigarettes are for squares, daddy-o!"
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Me Again on Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:46 pm

Facundo wrote:FM steve's midfi sound


Uh...if recording onto 2" tape with a Studer, through a Neotek console, with that host of mics and all of that outboard gear is what we're gonna call "MID-FI" (!), I think us "little fish" home recorder types are royally fucked.

Whatever "hi-fi" is, then, I most definitely cannot afford it. :lol:
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Tommy Alpha on Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:17 am

Me Again wrote:Whatever "hi-fi" is, then, I most definitely cannot afford it.


I think by now we all know what 'Hi-Fi' really is.

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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby Facundo on Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:25 pm

Me Again wrote:
Facundo wrote:FM steve's midfi sound


Uh...if recording onto 2" tape with a Studer, through a Neotek console, with that host of mics and all of that outboard gear is what we're gonna call "MID-FI" (!), I think us "little fish" home recorder types are royally fucked.

Whatever "hi-fi" is, then, I most definitely cannot afford it. :lol:


I tried with irony in the tread High on fire were saying... it's not what i think:

I really think S.Albini can make orchestral music from recording noise bands which is an art in itself so hard as making shit smell good.

I listen lots of recorded music and never heard the amount of details well done on fast recordings and mixes this man does. No distinction, from "minor" albums to be self-distributed from the bands or small labels.

The drums are probably his best point and why he's best known, it's a difficult art, but there are many other details treated with excellence like high SPL recording, coherence and clarity in harmonics, phases, feedback and so on.

I can listen any album he did and can't say anything wrong about the sound. For this i think blaming or defaming S.A. in public, instead of saying thanks don't has to be a choice for bands he worked for.
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Re: Why High on Fire didn't continue working with Albini?

Postby lumpenprole on Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:37 pm

Zorg wrote:He kept making unwanted sexual advances.


Actually, he made no sexual advances. Even after heavy hints were dropped.
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