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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby TheMilford on Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:38 pm

It will be be fine except that the output voltage on the Line out is VERY hot. Make sure you don't clip whatever you are plugging it into.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby chris jury on Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:56 pm

Cool- Thanks. The plan is to run it into one of the line/unbalanced inputs on my little mixer, keeping the 4 mic channels available for drum/guitar.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby FadingCaptain on Tue May 30, 2017 3:52 pm

Delivery Time:

I finally went ahead and ordered a Rusty Box pedal after drooling over them for years. From what I can grasp almost everyone on these forums has been impressed by the pedal as well. I ordered mine over 3 weeks ago and the pedal still has not been shipped. Has anyone else here experienced this issue with Tronographic? Is this normal or should I contact them? Any insight is appreciated.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby Mason on Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:02 pm

If you were going to pick just one of these pedals for guitar and bass, though mostly guitar, would you pick the Boxidizer or the Rusty Box?

Not saying I wouldn't pick up both, but you know, to start with.

I should also say this would be for D.I.-style recording.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby free meat on Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:37 am

A lot of people seem to like the Rusty on guitar as well as bass. Personally, as amazing as it is for bass, I never much liked it on guitar. I could be wrong. The Boxidizer on guitar blows my head off. I've recorded a bunch of things with it as a DI and it's fantastic for that. I've been lucky enough to snag both and if either was lost/stolen/destroyed I'd be hassling TheMilford for another come payday.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby agiant on Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:43 am

Mason wrote:If you were going to pick just one of these pedals for guitar and bass, though mostly guitar, would you pick the Boxidizer or the Rusty Box?

Not saying I wouldn't pick up both, but you know, to start with.

I should also say this would be for D.I.-style recording.


Rusty box, aka the magical pedal for bass. I have both.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby endofanera on Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:10 pm

Mason wrote:If you were going to pick just one of these pedals for guitar and bass, though mostly guitar, would you pick the Boxidizer or the Rusty Box?

Not saying I wouldn't pick up both, but you know, to start with.

I should also say this would be for D.I.-style recording.

Mostly guitar = mostly Boxidizer for me, though I don't think you can go wrong here.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby japmn on Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:17 pm

My Rusty Box has developed a really high pitched whine. It's not super loud, but enough to keep me from using it. I was guessing that it's the wall wart but since it's 30volt I don't have a way to A/B it. Anyone else ever had this problem?
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby free meat on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:52 am

is it only when hitting the rusty on with the footswitch or all the time? For a while ours would make a weird high pitched whine every now and then when switched on. Bit of contact cleaner on the switch seemed to fix it though.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby japmn on Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:45 pm

It is on when the Rusty is on. I've had this problem before with a bad wall wart but just threw it away and replaced it since 9v warts are everywhere. Being that I don't have a second 30v wart, it's harder to test if that is the problem. I guess I should just buy one and see, if it isn't the wart, it wouldn't hurt to have a spare lying around.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby Verbs & Nouns on Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:30 am

Anyone on here done this?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/unoffic ... t4629.html

I have a 470 and a Rusty Box but I don’t want to blow up my amp or pedal.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby garthplinko on Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:54 am

Verbs & Nouns wrote:Anyone on here done this?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/unoffic ... t4629.html

I have a 470 and a Rusty Box but I don’t want to blow up my amp or pedal.


This should be fine. I've been a big proponent of this trick for a long time. I did this w/ a SansAmp BassDriver while touring abroad and using an occasionally dodgy backline provided by others. Even on my main bass, I used it w/ a GK 2000RB as I liked the SansAmp better.

For a few years I hosted an open mic and rather than take my good stuff, for the guitar amp, I had a red-knob POS Fender solid-state Power Chorus w/ a fried pre-amp section. For the preamp, I used an old Metal Zone of all things. People were quite startled how good it sounded. Not sure I'd ever say "great (still a metal zone after all)" but surprisingly acceptable for the wide range of folks that ended up using it.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby Verbs & Nouns on Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:43 pm

Cool. Thanks. I’ll try it next week at practice.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby japmn on Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:16 pm

New adapter. no noise. I run mine into one of those Peavey 60 Watt all Tube Power amps into a single 15" ampeg cab with some giant heavy celestion speaker in it. Sounds pretty ok.

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These can be had really cheap and also come in a Stereo 60 watt, and 120 watt stereo version that I believe can be bridged for, like, MORE LOUD! The fan is hella noisy though.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby Verbs & Nouns on Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:03 pm

Verbs & Nouns wrote:Anyone on here done this?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/unoffic ... t4629.html

I have a 470 and a Rusty Box but I don’t want to blow up my amp or pedal.


Tried this last night. Ran it from the “line” out on the RB to the “accessories in” on my head. Super noisey, way too loud, no volume control. Tried it from the “main” out, a little better but not different enough from just running it the usual way, also still way too loud even controlling it with the RB volume. I ended up just using it the same way I’ve alway had it, which is the last pedal in my chain, then into the normal input. I was using a normal guitar lead.

Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: I have no idea what I’m really doing with anything like this.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby numberthirty on Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:32 pm

Verbs & Nouns wrote:Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: I have no idea what I’m really doing with anything like this.


Not anything that can't be straightened out.

From the looks of this page on the 450, that "Access In/Out" jack is seemingly an Insert jack. Think about it like an Insert on a mixing board.

What I would suggest doing is picking up one of these...

http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/228393-Cable-Up-by-Vu-YS-PM3-PM2D-5-BLK

(Where you wind up buying it from won't matter. Just that you get a cable like that)

The way it will likely work goes a little something like this -

- Plug the male end that looks like a "Headphone" cable into the back of the 470.
- One of the male ends that looks like a "Guitar" cable will go to the input of the Rusty Box.
- One of the male ends that looks like a "Guitar" cable will go to the output of the Rusty Box.

Once those connections are make, it will be "Inserted" into the "Access In/Out" jack. Once you've done that, I'd give it a try.

One last thing, I think one of the folks posting in that thread may be someone who posts here.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby numberthirty on Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:43 pm

One last thing...

I'd start with the Rusty Box "Instrument" output as opposed to it's "Line" output, and see how that sounds.

Good luck.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby Riff Magnum on Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:02 pm

Just came here to gloat. Ordered a brand spanking new Boxidizer from Reverb and I'm giddy as a little boy.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby Verbs & Nouns on Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:38 pm

numberthirty wrote:
Verbs & Nouns wrote:Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: I have no idea what I’m really doing with anything like this.


Not anything that can't be straightened out.

From the looks of this page on the 450, that "Access In/Out" jack is seemingly an Insert jack. Think about it like an Insert on a mixing board.

What I would suggest doing is picking up one of these...

http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/228393-Cable-Up-by-Vu-YS-PM3-PM2D-5-BLK

(Where you wind up buying it from won't matter. Just that you get a cable like that)

The way it will likely work goes a little something like this -

- Plug the male end that looks like a "Headphone" cable into the back of the 470.
- One of the male ends that looks like a "Guitar" cable will go to the input of the Rusty Box.
- One of the male ends that looks like a "Guitar" cable will go to the output of the Rusty Box.

Once those connections are make, it will be "Inserted" into the "Access In/Out" jack. Once you've done that, I'd give it a try.

One last thing, I think one of the folks posting in that thread may be someone who posts here.


Dumb question, if I use a Y-cable going in and out of my Rusty Box... where do I plug my guitar in? Do I use another guitar lead and go from my guitar into the instrument input on the front of the amp?

Last night I tried it like this: Guitar > tuner > (other pedals not on) > Rusty Box > Access In / Out.
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Re: Tronographic News Thread: RUSTY BOX & BOXIDIZER UPDATES

Postby numberthirty on Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:02 pm

Verbs & Nouns wrote:Dumb question, if I use a Y-cable going in and out of my Rusty Box... where do I plug my guitar in? Do I use another guitar lead and go from my guitar into the instrument input on the front of the amp?

Last night I tried it like this: Guitar > tuner > (other pedals not on) > Rusty Box > Access In / Out.


There aren't really any dumb questions.

As for what you mentioned, that's exactly it. Go straight into the front, and see if that connection suddenly makes the Rusty Box sound markedly different versus what you tried that didn't work at all. If nothing else, you will know if it sounds berserk both ways.

Another thing that's worth trying is what you have tried(that sounded nuts) with the "Instrument" output instead of the "Line" output. It could be something as simple as that the jack doesn't like line level. Trying it both ways should give you some idea of what is going on(if nothing else).
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