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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby elisha wiesner on Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:13 am

twelvepoint wrote:Elisha, I'm interested why you don't use jigs. Are you able to do a primary and microbevel by hand and consistently get it within a degree or two?


I've tried to use jigs but I just seem to get a better edge without them and it's quicker for me. I also don't do a microbevel. Just one razor sharp edge. This doesn't mean that jigs aren't good, just that I prefer to do it by hand. My Dad taught me how to sharpen knives and chisels when I was a kid and I've just been doing it this way forever and after years of full time carpentry and keeping things sharp, I guess I'm just stuck in my routine.
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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby endofanera on Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:14 am

eliya wrote:Really beautiful work, Elisha. Goodness!

For serious! I love these guitars.
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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby twelvepoint on Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:34 am

elisha wiesner wrote:
twelvepoint wrote:Elisha, I'm interested why you don't use jigs. Are you able to do a primary and microbevel by hand and consistently get it within a degree or two?


I've tried to use jigs but I just seem to get a better edge without them and it's quicker for me. I also don't do a microbevel. Just one razor sharp edge. This doesn't mean that jigs aren't good, just that I prefer to do it by hand. My Dad taught me how to sharpen knives and chisels when I was a kid and I've just been doing it this way forever and after years of full time carpentry and keeping things sharp, I guess I'm just stuck in my routine.


Thanks! Maybe I'll try hand sharpening a single little plane or something and see how it goes. I still definitely need to get an india stone at some point though.
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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby elisha wiesner on Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:07 am

twelvepoint wrote:
elisha wiesner wrote:
twelvepoint wrote:Elisha, I'm interested why you don't use jigs. Are you able to do a primary and microbevel by hand and consistently get it within a degree or two?


I've tried to use jigs but I just seem to get a better edge without them and it's quicker for me. I also don't do a microbevel. Just one razor sharp edge. This doesn't mean that jigs aren't good, just that I prefer to do it by hand. My Dad taught me how to sharpen knives and chisels when I was a kid and I've just been doing it this way forever and after years of full time carpentry and keeping things sharp, I guess I'm just stuck in my routine.


Thanks! Maybe I'll try hand sharpening a single little plane or something and see how it goes. I still definitely need to get an india stone at some point though.


Good stones are obviously important but practice and technique are really what do it in my opinion. I've never seen my Dad sharpen on anything other than one of those generic two sided oil stones or maybe a piece of sandpaper on a jobsite and his tools and knives are always nice and sharp.

You may want to look into a Japanese water stone. The cheap two sided ones do a nice job but wear out fairly quickly and you need to lap them frequently. The luthier that taught me guitar building is all Japanese waterstones and his shit is insanely sharp!

Last thing. It's much easier to maintain a sharp edge if you don't let it get super dull. I'll regularly hit the 8000 side of the stone for 10-15 seconds during the day with a chisel I'm using. If I let it get dull, I have to start at a lower grit and work my way back up and it's way more time consuming.
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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby twelvepoint on Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:02 am

Thanks again!

Oops I mean Arkansas stone, not India. I have some water stones that are 200/800/4000 and I think I should have one more stone that's even smoother (maybe?). the fine arkansas stones are nice (I have a pocket one) but are pricey for an 8x2" bench size, so I want to choose wisely.
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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby Nico Adie on Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:25 am

Completely forgot to mention that I also use a Welsh slate stone as a final hone before stropping! The eBay seller reckoned it to be equivalent to 8000-12000 grit.
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Re: The Woodworking Thread

Postby gnangle on Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:22 pm

the tighter the grain of the metal is the better of an edge youll get. also elishas point about periodically resharpening is very good advice.
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