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How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Siriiven of the Boards on Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:16 pm

I have a 65 Fender Deluxe Reverb that I love the sound of. It's a 22 watt amp that is slightly lacking in volume. Is there a way that I can run from the speaker out to a power amp then a cabinet? If not any other ways would you recommend? What gear would I need?
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby numberthirty on Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:21 pm

I think this might be along the lines of what you are saying...

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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby llllllllllllllllllllllll on Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:57 pm

Country guys would put in a 6l6s, a bigger transformer and an EV Speaker or something. I’m sure that sounds cool but it’s probably easier to use it as a head and hook it up to a bigger cabinet.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Siriiven of the Boards on Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:16 pm

That power station does sound like it would do what I am looking for. At that price though I might think about maybe an 85 watt twin reverb.

I am looking to run it hot. I had it hooked into a 4 x 12 peavey cabinet and cranked the volume to 8. It sounded awesome, and had some slight overdrive as I hit the strings hard. Just might be a tad low output though.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby numberthirty on Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:18 pm

Siriiven of the Boards wrote:That power station does sound like it would do what I am looking for. At that price though I might think about maybe an 85 watt twin reverb.

I am looking to run it hot. I had it hooked into a 4 x 12 peavey cabinet and cranked the volume to 8. It sounded awesome, and had some slight overdrive as I hit the strings hard. Just might be a tad low output though.


Certainly.

If you wouldn't have a use for the other things that the Power Station is capable of doing, it probably makes just as much sense to consider a more powerful Fender.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby 154 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:22 am

For every elaborate power amp/external speaker scheme it's probably easier just to get a used Hot Rod Deville or whatever to use as a 2nd stage volume amp. The soundperson can just ignore it and mic up the Deluxe Reverb.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Tommy on Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:02 am

Therein lies the problem I've always had with the Deluxe Reverb. Too loud for home use. Too quiet for a rock drummer. You could put an extremely efficient speaker in there (or use an efficient extension cabinet) and maybe get what you're looking for. Also tilt it or raise it so you can hear it better.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby chris jury on Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:31 am

I think it is all in how you use it.

The Bismarck practiced and recorded with a tweed deluxe (12-15 watts, maybe) for years- no problem hearing myself over a very loud drummer.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Tommy on Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:13 pm

chris jury wrote:I think it is all in how you use it.

The Bismarck practiced and recorded with a tweed deluxe (12-15 watts, maybe) for years- no problem hearing myself over a very loud drummer.


Tweed is a different animal BUT the magic spot for me on nearly all Fender blackface amps is between 4 and 5 depending on amp/pickups. I like to find where headroom disappears and back it off slightly so that when a distortion pedal is engaged it is very slightly louder. I tried one at practice once with a power trio and was BURIED. It was totally fine for a surf band I was also in.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby 154 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:04 pm

Depends on what kind of practice space you're playing in as well. In my small, acoustically muffled space I was able to play drums somewhat loud next to a guitarist playing one of those newer Champs into an external cab. Not screaming loud but it worked.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby tallchris on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:30 pm

Before you get into modding a nice old blackface combo (assuming it's not a reissue), maybe you could just put that money towards a cheap blackface or silverface head (Bandmaster or Bassman). You could even get the tone stack modded closer to the Deluxe (if you're not using the reverb) and then use that when you need to be louder.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Siriiven of the Boards on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:01 pm

Thanks for responses everyone. It seems that for the price of the power station I would be better off getting a twin reverb and bandmaster head.

A couple of questions:

If I was going to try different speakers in the deluxe what would you recommend?

I have a mesa boogie triple rectifier amp I am not using too much. Is there any way to run the fender through that and use it as a sort of power amp?
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Dr Tony Balls on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:13 pm

Siriiven of the Boards wrote:I have a mesa boogie triple rectifier amp I am not using too much. Is there any way to run the fender through that and use it as a sort of power amp?


Not without modding the DR to add a line out.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Siriiven of the Boards on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:30 pm

Dr Tony Balls wrote:
Siriiven of the Boards wrote:I have a mesa boogie triple rectifier amp I am not using too much. Is there any way to run the fender through that and use it as a sort of power amp?


Not without modding the DR to add a line out.


Gotcha. Thanks.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby tallchris on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:37 pm

Siriiven of the Boards wrote:
Dr Tony Balls wrote:
Siriiven of the Boards wrote:I have a mesa boogie triple rectifier amp I am not using too much. Is there any way to run the fender through that and use it as a sort of power amp?


Not without modding the DR to add a line out.


Gotcha. Thanks.


And it would still need a speaker load or else the amp will be toast....
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby llllllllllllllllllllllll on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:44 pm

Siriiven of the Boards wrote:I am looking to run it hot. I had it hooked into a 4 x 12 peavey cabinet and cranked the volume to 8. It sounded awesome, and had some slight overdrive as I hit the strings hard. Just might be a tad low output though.


If it’s almost there with that cab, maybe you can get all the way there with more efficient speakers!
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby 154 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:52 pm

Siriiven of the Boards wrote:If I was going to try different speakers in the deluxe what would you recommend?


For squeezing as much juice out of the amp as possible I can't recommend the Eminence Patriot Swamp Thang enough. It's so effective I can't crank my 5w amp at home anymore..

Just be warned that part of what you like about the amp currently might be coming from the speaker.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Redline on Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:48 pm

Just buy a louder amp.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby Anthony Flack on Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:26 pm

+1

Or use two.

Or you could mic the amp.
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Re: How to boost volume of a 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb?

Postby TylerSavage on Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:46 am

Sell the Mesa,buy an AC30 and play it alongside the deluxe. Never look back and don’t bother buying anything else. You have now won the internal doubt gear battle
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