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Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

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Which guitarist do you like better?

Steve Jones
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Johnny Ramone
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79%
 
Total votes : 52

Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby punch_the_lion on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:08 am

John,

You should also check out the doc The Filth and the Fury. Jones talks about the influence of Thunders in his own guitar playing.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby warmowski on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:12 am

Smeary, Dollsian upstroke-inclusive style vs. all downstrokes, all day, no kidding.

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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby John W. on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:16 am

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John W. wrote:I know Thunders did a bunch of stuff - can anybody recommend some non-Dolls stuff or solo work he did that shows off his guitar playing?


I don't know a whole lot of his solo work, but I love So Alone and L.A.M.F.. Maybe give those a shot?


Thanks - I'll shall seek those out.

punch_the_lion wrote:John,

You should also check out the doc The Filth and the Fury. Jones talks about the influence of Thunders in his own guitar playing.


I own this and love it - I don't really get tired of it. Think I'll watch it again, thanks.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby tallchris on Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:31 pm

Johnny all the way.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby John W. on Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:55 pm

That picture is so fucking cool I want to change my vote.

Salut Brett Ralph - PRF photo editor extraordinaire!
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby Brett Eugene Ralph on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:00 pm

John W. wrote:That picture is so fucking cool I want to change my vote.

Salut Brett Ralph - PRF photo editor extraordinaire!


Thanks, John.

I think it's safe to say you won't find a picture of Johnny Ramone like this on the internet:

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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby John W. on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:08 pm

Ohjesusfrchrissakes!

I think you're right.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby readandburn on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:11 pm

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Steve Jones' hair in the 80s was pretty funny.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby John W. on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:18 pm

Yanni hair!
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby The MayorofRockNRoll on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:23 pm

I do like/love the Sex Pistols, I really do. And, as a Sex Pistol, Steve Jones did great work. Outside of that, he was sort of a middling bar-band guitarist. And he was- bless his heart- probably the notable 'non-brain' behind the Pistols (not including Sid Vicious, who was just kind of a face).

Johnny Ramone didn't really do anything except The Ramones, but was- on all fronts- an equal player in the creation of what was The Ramones.

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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby don.chaney on Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:39 pm

Jones wrote a lot of his shit, right? Can't say the same for Johnny.



Johnny Ramone may have "taken the guitar back from the Rock Gods" or however the spiel goes, but his playing isn't any less inhuman than Jeff Beck if you know what I mean. He's on another level - no one can really do what he did. A great guitarist without question, up there with Berry and Hendrix in terms of influence, but Steve Jones is more a "punk guitarist" in my eyes. It's all attitude - he shows you how far Sylvain Sylvain's Les Paul, a stolen Fender Twin, and a few months fucking around with them in your flat can take you.

Johnny Ramone is Johnny fucking Ramone. Steve Jones was just some dude.

I don't know, I like up-strokes alright? Fuck you guys. The guy's hair might have gotten pretty stupid for a bit, but he never went on and on about Thatcher or pal'd around with Vincent Gallo or nothing.

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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby AnthonyCinder on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:08 am

Easiest poll ever.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby AnthonyCinder on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:13 am

AnthonyVillalobos wrote:America wins.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby jimmy two hands on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:19 pm

Johnny, easy.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby steve on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:30 pm

It's really goddamn hard to invent a brand new way to play an instrument. Steve Jones and Paul Cook are underrated outside the punk-literate world, but Johnny Ramone's guitar playing, almost 40 years later, is still utterly unique. Nobody can even come close.

Easy win for the Ramones.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby Angus Jung on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:57 pm

steve wrote:Johnny Ramone's guitar playing, almost 40 years later, is still utterly unique. Nobody can even come close.

He is one of the handful of rock guitarists about whom you can use the term "genius" without feeling like you're exaggerating.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby Colonel Panic on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:01 pm

No contest whatsoever.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby MrMattDiehl on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:47 pm

Johnny Ramone - for the sole chicken-or-the-egg angle: without The Ramones, there would be no Sex Pistols, period. Johnny Ramone utterly redefined the guitar playing - a total trailblazer amidst '70s virtuoso bullshit.

That said, Steve Jones is a GREAT guitarist. For one, he himself is a virtuoso, and could replicate Bad Company solos all day if he wanted to, but restrained himself to play raw and direct. As well, I think some of his shit outside the Pistols was pretty fucking cool - I think his playing with The Professionals is wildly underrated: there's some pretty unexpected stuff on their tracks.
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Re: Punk Guitarists: Steve Jones vs. Johnny Ramone

Postby matthew on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:27 pm

Is this poll fo' real?

No brainer- Johnny Ramone by miles.
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