I do like/love the Sex Pistols, I really do. And, as a Sex Pistol, Steve Jones did great work. Outside of that, he was sort of a middling bar-band guitarist. And he was- bless his heart- probably the notable 'non-brain' behind the Pistols (not including Sid Vicious, who was just kind of a face).
Johnny Ramone didn't really do anything except The Ramones, but was- on all fronts- an equal player in the creation of what was The Ramones.
Jones wrote a lot of his shit, right? Can't say the same for Johnny.
Johnny Ramone may have "taken the guitar back from the Rock Gods" or however the spiel goes, but his playing isn't any less inhuman than Jeff Beck if you know what I mean. He's on another level - no one can really do what he did. A great guitarist without question, up there with Berry and Hendrix in terms of influence, but Steve Jones is more a "punk guitarist" in my eyes. It's all attitude - he shows you how far Sylvain Sylvain's Les Paul, a stolen Fender Twin, and a few months fucking around with them in your flat can take you.
Johnny Ramone is Johnny fucking Ramone. Steve Jones was just some dude.
I don't know, I like up-strokes alright? Fuck you guys. The guy's hair might have gotten pretty stupid for a bit, but he never went on and on about Thatcher or pal'd around with Vincent Gallo or nothing.
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It's really goddamn hard to invent a brand new way to play an instrument. Steve Jones and Paul Cook are underrated outside the punk-literate world, but Johnny Ramone's guitar playing, almost 40 years later, is still utterly unique. Nobody can even come close.
Easy win for the Ramones.
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Johnny Ramone - for the sole chicken-or-the-egg angle: without The Ramones, there would be no Sex Pistols, period. Johnny Ramone utterly redefined the guitar playing - a total trailblazer amidst '70s virtuoso bullshit.
That said, Steve Jones is a GREAT guitarist. For one, he himself is a virtuoso, and could replicate Bad Company solos all day if he wanted to, but restrained himself to play raw and direct. As well, I think some of his shit outside the Pistols was pretty fucking cool - I think his playing with The Professionals is wildly underrated: there's some pretty unexpected stuff on their tracks.
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