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"Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

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Get away from me with that inky bullshit, Hippie!
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Hell yeah! Let me play that Didgeridoo!
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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby Dave N. on Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:05 pm

Trying to dial it back. I’ve been using 10-12 grams a day for 3 years. It makes me feel good, but it makes me complacent. It helped get me through a divorce and it helped me stop drinking for a couple of years. It helped with anxiety and depression. It helped with allergies. It helped get me through hours of mundane factory work. It’s a miracle drug on those fronts, but it extinguishes the creative spark.

As for withdrawals, the first day was a headache and my body felt like it was hit by a truck. Strange dreams. It tapers off quickly.
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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby blackmarket on Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:46 pm

I could never do this stuff during the day. After three hours or so I get uncontrollably sleepy and my eyes begin to close. It is a nice, relaxing thing to do before bed.

I see people talking in grams. How does this translate to teaspoons? 10-12 grams (two or three teaspoons?) does not seem like a lot to take in a day.
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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby Riff Magnum on Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:04 pm

Dave N. wrote:Trying to dial it back. I’ve been using 10-12 grams a day for 3 years. It makes me feel good, but it makes me complacent. It helped get me through a divorce and it helped me stop drinking for a couple of years. It helped with anxiety and depression. It helped with allergies. It helped get me through hours of mundane factory work. It’s a miracle drug on those fronts, but it extinguishes the creative spark.

As for withdrawals, the first day was a headache and my body felt like it was hit by a truck. Strange dreams. It tapers off quickly.



Weird. I've experienced the opposite. I mean it's actually kinda creepy how the past few years of your life sounds a lot like the last few years of mine, but Ive been able to write tons of songs all while working two jobs and being a single dad with two kids. Been a few lulls here and there, but nothing catastrophic.
Good to know the withdrawals aren't too bad, because i know i need to dial it back as well. I probably take 4-5 teaspoons a day, which is about twice as much as i was taking a year or two ago.
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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby mrcancelled on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:30 pm

Kratom withdrawals put me on my ass a couple of times, even from relatively short-term use. The insomnia and restless legs were the worst part, the cold symptoms I could deal with. But then I always went cold turkey and everyone recommends tapering.

Drugs are weird. Some folks get terrible withdrawals, some don't. Kratom puts some people to sleep, for others (like me) it's pretty much speed.
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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby DregsInTheCrowd on Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:03 am

For me, one of the weirdest aspects of it is that if you keep yourself engaged with some project, it DOES work like speed. But if you choose to close your eyes for even a moment, you will be out cold for three hours without fail. With all the active compounds it contains, it's no surprise that it's a mixed bag of effects that manifest to different degrees depending on the user, strain, dose, and choice of contiguous activities.
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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby DregsInTheCrowd on Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:03 am

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Re: "Legal" thing that gets Hippies high: Kratom

Postby llllllllllllllllllllllll on Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:28 am

I take it a lot and started on it years ago. I went off of it for two weeks cold turkey when we went to the Philippines to get married and see my wife’s family. I had insomnia but I get that every single time I travel. I didn’t mind because what the fuck, I was in a new country.
Come to think of it, the flight there was horrible, but of course it would be. I even brought a few Xanax, which I do not enjoy recreationally and they just agitated me. The flight back was no big deal except we flew United and they fucking sucked compare to ANA. So, it’s difficult to tell if I had them.
I’ve never notices it having any effects on my creativity. If anything it kind of helps me get my ass to the practice space after a long day at work rather than just going home. Might be just different ways of working - I have to grind to get anything done. Not naturally gifted enough to do anything but play all the time.
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