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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Antero on Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:26 am

elisha wiesner wrote:I really like the Odd Future stuff I've heard. The Earl album is fucking sick. The best rap album I've heard in a long time. I just got Tylers new one yesterday and I'm liking it. Maybe not as much as Bastard but it's still good.

As a side note, in a field dominated by men it is nice to see that the bulk of the Odd Future stuff is engineered and mixed by Syd Tha Kid, an 18 year old female. She did all of Goblin and a bunch off the other stuff.

Syd is really fucking good at what she does too. Any recent OF release has a ton of weird synths doing weird things but all completely audible, and the bass kick is absurd.

I think Goblin is better than Bastard, but it's also a much less pleasurable listen. It's the darkest thing I've heard in a minute. Numbers might be the best, though, if "64" and "igotagun" are any indication.

Earl Sweatshirt is the most crushingly skillful rapper to hit the scene in years. In terms of accomplishment relative to age the only comparable names are Nas and Prodigy, and he was younger than either when he dropped his eponymous song. His command of assonance is nothing less than freakish.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Mama Clortho on Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:21 am

Steve V. wrote:I think I tired of this group pretty much overnight.

I think everyone else will catch up to that thought in a minute or five.

EARL is still good though.


In regards to their music, I feel exactly the same way. I've spent a ridiculous amount of time pondering both the group and how they make me feel and I still haven't reached any conclusions. Then I ponder why I've spent so much time pondering them and so on.

Watching their journey from mid last year to early this year was much very exciting for me. This peaked with the Fallon performance and it's been really disappointing since. I went from snapping up tickets to their performances at the Opera House and selling them for six times what I paid for them in the space of a month.

I think I got a vicarious thrill initially. Watching them do things I daydreamed about doing at their age.

Also, something about the music has become apparent that I initially couldn't hear through all the hype. It all sounds like it was made with fruity loops.

Despite all of this, I continue to watch with interest. And Earl.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Dovey on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:19 pm

digital lofi wrote:They're managed by a former VP of marketing at fuckin' Interscope. They may have roots and the aesthetic of DIY internet & skate culture but come on, they're about as 'indie' or 'punk' as Green Day. Or soon to be.


This might seem like a minor point, but anybody who attempts to judge rappers by punk's moral code is gonna find themselves extremely frustrated, extremely fast. They're not even operating in the same dimension.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby J. Burns on Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:18 pm

New Mellowhype vid.

I like this more than anything on "Goblin."
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby a leg plaster on Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:14 pm

J. Burns wrote:New Mellowhype vid.

I like this more than anything on "Goblin."


Yesterday Antero wrote:Speaking of Mellowhype...

Damn, son.


However, I think we can all agree it's good stuff.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Robert G on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:56 pm

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Antero on Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:32 am

If you're not obsessively following these guys, Tyler, The Creator broke his foot in multiple places about 30 seconds into a set, immediately stage-dived, disappeared briefly for bandaging, and proceeded to perform a whole show alternately hopping and thrashing frantically on one foot or sitting in the middle of the stage.

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby crustandcrumb on Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:31 pm

Antero wrote:Swag.


Alternately: Reckless. Stupid.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby sulfur)addict on Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:07 pm

crustandcrumb wrote:
Antero wrote:Swag.


Alternately: Reckless. Stupid.


Jesus, go listen to Journey or some other tame shit.

but but, he could've done serious damage to his foot! burbaburgleboo!

I hear Kings of Leon left a concert 'cuz a bird shit on the bass player. They sound like your kind of band!
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby crustandcrumb on Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:17 pm

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby tmidgett on Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:56 am

Wow. Yeah, huh?

Sounds bad to me. Like bad music.

Maybe so dumb and lowest-common-denominator that it comes out the other side and sounds innovative to some people. It is the 2nd thing I've heard in recent months that may be having this effect (tUnE-yArDs being the other).

I think the rapping is bad--technically bad. Poorly done and uninteresting sonically. The lyrics are dumb. I don't care about the bad words and stuff about killing and women and gay people and killing both women and gay people.

The beats are dumb.

The music is just nothing. Mindless noodling. It doesn't sound aggressive to me in the slightest.

Yonkers, bad. The Jimmy Fallon thing, bad. I listened to that Mellowgroove thing. Bad.

The dudes seem a little unhinged, but so what. They're about as unhinged as Slipknot or Gwar or Salem or something. No patch on a lot of other stuff.

Utterly unmoved. Let me know if you're still paying attention in ten years. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby AnthonyCinder on Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:50 am

tmidgett wrote:Wow. Yeah, huh?

Sounds bad to me. Like bad music.

Maybe so dumb and lowest-common-denominator that it comes out the other side and sounds innovative to some people. It is the 2nd thing I've heard in recent months that may be having this effect (tUnE-yArDs being the other).

I think the rapping is bad--technically bad. Poorly done and uninteresting sonically. The lyrics are dumb. I don't care about the bad words and stuff about killing and women and gay people and killing both women and gay people.

The beats are dumb.

The music is just nothing. Mindless noodling. It doesn't sound aggressive to me in the slightest.

Yonkers, bad. The Jimmy Fallon thing, bad. I listened to that Mellowgroove thing. Bad.

The dudes seem a little unhinged, but so what. They're about as unhinged as Slipknot or Gwar or Salem or something. No patch on a lot of other stuff.

Utterly unmoved. Let me know if you're still paying attention in ten years. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Antero on Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:52 am

I'm sad Tim didn't get it.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Mason on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:36 am

No, you guys, you don't get it. We're wasting our time listening to this shit.

There's a black president in the White House now.

Don't you see?
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby AnthonyCinder on Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:50 pm

Antero wrote:I'm sad Tim didn't get it.


It's not that he didn't get it--this isn't deep, multi-layered music with different levels of meaning. In fact, I think it's the exact kind of music where it's pretty clear whether or not you think it's good or not. Definitely not one of the ones where repeated listens open up new interpretations, even though I admittedly have it multiple chances simply because so many people were going apeshit. But yeah . . . no.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby steve on Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:46 pm

I haven't mentioned this until now because I expected this shit to collapse into its own emptiness the way Salem and Vanilla Ice did before them, but whatever. I spent about 40 minutes with these little pricks at the end of May and I haven't wanted to strangle anybody that much in a real long time.

Their music is nothing, but sooner or later these little scrubs are going to get their asses kicked, and I suspect all their bullshit will calm down significantly after that happens.

Unhinged? Nah. Pedestrian eighth-grade shock nonsense fit only to upset grannies. Crazier shit is said at playgrounds every day.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby scntfc on Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:04 pm

i stand by my not crap vote despite the fact that the earl solo record was the high water mark.

as far as contemporary hip hop is concerned though, death grips makes anything odd future related seem amateur by comparison.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby crustandcrumb on Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:48 pm

scntfc wrote:death grips


LOL
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby scntfc on Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:50 pm

crustandcrumb wrote:
scntfc wrote:death grips


LOL


you should submit it as fan art>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby matthewbarnhart on Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:26 pm

steve wrote:I haven't mentioned this until now because I expected this shit to collapse into its own emptiness the way Salem and Vanilla Ice did before them, but whatever. I spent about 40 minutes with these little pricks at the end of May and I haven't wanted to strangle anybody that much in a real long time.


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