home studios equipment staff/friends booking/rates for sale forum contact

Band: Pailhead

Vote and debate.

Moderators: kerble, Electrical-Staff

Pailhead?

CRAP
6
29%
NOT CRAP
15
71%
 
Total votes : 21

Band: Pailhead

Postby swelters on Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:43 pm

Really neat punk/industrial side-project featuring Ian Mackaye and Al Jourgensen

definitely a not crap from me
swelters
secretary of the interior
secretary of the interior
 
Posts: 105
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:08 pm

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby lemur68 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:47 pm

I enjoy it, but I've never gotten a story as to how those two got together.
big_dave wrote:This is just about finding a dorky selfie on his blogspot?

Jesus, this is the Space Ace by Don Bluth of internet intrigue.
User avatar
lemur68
King Shit of Fuck Mountain
 
Posts: 18283
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:52 am
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby swelters on Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:51 pm

Ian MacKaye: I met Al at a studio in London in 1986 or so. He told me that he was getting into “hardcore,” which struck me as odd considering that Ministry, up to that point, was a college dance music band. It was also at a time when I was in the band Embrace, which was moving away from what many people considered “hardcore” at the time. He asked me if I wanted to sing on one of the tracks he was working on (he recorded a lot of music, and as he finished each piece he would decide what project-name he would release it under). At first, I didn’t think there was a chance I would do it, but when he played me the track (it would become “I Will Refuse”), I was pretty knocked out by it. I actually wrote the lyrics in an hour or two and did the vocals that night. It was partly inspired by the struggle with the major label that had signed Ministry at the time (Warner Bros.?), but like almost all of my songs spread out to cover a lot of different things by the time I was done writing. I didn’t really know in what form this song would be released, or if it would be released for that matter, but I liked what we came up with. A month or two later, Al asked me to come to Chicago to record a second song that would be used as a B-side to “I Will Refuse.” So I went out there and wrote and recorded “No Bunny” with him and Ion (Paul) Barker from Ministry and revolting Cocks, and a guy named Eric (whose last name I can’t remember at the moment) who played drums for Naked Raygun. I came up with the name Pailhead for the project and it was decided that it would be released with no name or pictures or information. This is not because we were ashamed to be connected to the music, or each other, but because it seemed cooler to do it that way. A year or so later, I went back to Chicago for a second e.p., and eventually all six songs we recorded were released on a single CD. I haven’t spoken with Al for many years, but I really enjoyed working with him and found him to be a sweet and brilliant studio producer.
swelters
secretary of the interior
secretary of the interior
 
Posts: 105
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:08 pm

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby lemur68 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:45 pm

Interesting! I also didn't know it happened that early (thought it was closer to 1990-ish).

Ever heard that first Ministry album? It sounds like the goddamn Human League.
big_dave wrote:This is just about finding a dorky selfie on his blogspot?

Jesus, this is the Space Ace by Don Bluth of internet intrigue.
User avatar
lemur68
King Shit of Fuck Mountain
 
Posts: 18283
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:52 am
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby placeholder on Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:57 pm

Weirdly NOT CRAP.

Aside from the Blackouts and Skinny Puppy's Rabies album, this is probably the only worthwhile thing any of the main Ministry people has been involved with. Good album.

lemur68 wrote:Ever heard that first Ministry album? It sounds like the goddamn Human League.


Only The Human League made three excellent records to Ministry's zero.

With Sympathy and all that super early Ministry stuff--"Everyday is Halloween" and the like--is particularly hilarious.
User avatar
placeholder
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
 
Posts: 7971
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:06 pm

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby RSMurphy on Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:19 pm

placeholder wrote:Aside from the Blackouts and Skinny Puppy's Rabies album, this is probably the only worthwhile thing any of the main Ministry people has been involved with. Good album.


You're forgetting about the first three Revolting Cocks records. Don't worry. I got yr back.
:wink:

I also like Lard's The Last Temptation of Reid.

Pailhead is not crap.
RSMurphy
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
 
Posts: 8974
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:52 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby punch_the_lion on Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:33 pm

placeholder wrote:With Sympathy and all that super early Ministry stuff--"Everyday is Halloween" and the like--is particularly hilarious.


I've always avoided Ministry. I did a search on Youtube for With Sympathy, hilarious indeed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sET1lhBMNiU
User avatar
punch_the_lion
Eternal Bosom of Hot Love
Eternal Bosom of Hot Love
 
Posts: 3488
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:09 pm

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby readandburn on Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:03 pm

Not crap.

I also like the original version of "I Will Refuse" with Chris Connelly on vocals.
User avatar
readandburn
future member of the green party
future member of the green party
 
Posts: 936
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:22 pm
Location: Not Chicago

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby El Protoolio on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:12 am

I liked these records a lot when they came out. At least one of them was a 12 inch 45. The songs still hold up.

PAILHEAD NOT CRAP
User avatar
El Protoolio
Present-day God
Present-day God
 
Posts: 9053
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:18 am
Location: Your Mom

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby bleh. on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:40 am

NOT CRAP.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
User avatar
bleh.
urinated in reservoir
urinated in reservoir
 
Posts: 1507
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:28 pm
Location: brooklyn

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby Boombats on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:43 am

DON'T STAND IN LINE



NC
User avatar
Boombats
Analingus Eggnog
 
Posts: 19428
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:31 am

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby washwhatyoueat on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:49 am

placeholder wrote:
With Sympathy and all that super early Ministry stuff--"Everyday is Halloween" and the like--is particularly hilarious.




listen long enough to catch the sweet, sweet sax soundz...

of course this came way before Al Jourgenson invented the idea of merging distorted guitars and vocals with electronics and samples...

Oh, and Pailhead were not crap...
User avatar
washwhatyoueat
mime
mime
 
Posts: 209
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:29 am
Location: Memphis, TN

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby readandburn on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:57 am

The With Sympathy crap is better than the "99%'ers" crap.
User avatar
readandburn
future member of the green party
future member of the green party
 
Posts: 936
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:22 pm
Location: Not Chicago

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby Ranxerox on Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:27 pm

I like Pailhead alot and the use of Ian's raspy, anthemic howl was inspired.

I even like the latter day Ministry releases (I thought using Gibby on Jesus Hotrod was quite effective, as well).

Jourgenson moved outside of Austin for a spell back in the mid-90s or so and would occasionally come to town, entourage in effect, decked out in what would today be considered a gay leatherboy's version of Rob Zombie attire. Word was he struck a female at Lovejoy's one night. Wasn't there, but never heard a different version of those events, whatever that is worth. Saw him at Lovejoy's several times, lap dogs of various sizes in tow, and could never forget that beneath all of that silly clothing stood a Dooran Dooran wannabe.

N/C
Ranxerox
penguinologist
penguinologist
 
Posts: 1825
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2003 8:15 pm

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby Bernardo on Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:13 pm

Have been going back to these tracks a lot lately. They were great, Barker's bass lines, in particular, were very inspired around this time.
I used to play guitar for Elma and Buistra, and bass for Are You God?.
More recently did these:
Vermes do Limbo + Bernardo Pacheco /-/ Berna And The Gangstas
User avatar
Bernardo
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
 
Posts: 7112
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:03 am
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil

Re: Band: Pailhead

Postby M.H on Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:16 am

Bernardo wrote:Barker's bass lines, in particular, were very inspired around this time.


Don't forget to check out Barker's Lead Into Gold side project. Some good stuff, more of an early Eno / Magazine vibe.

Pailhead are N.C, WF zero.
M.H
rocky
rocky
 
Posts: 464
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:41 pm


Return to Crap / Not Crap

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bill Flaig, Yahoo [Bot] and 21 guests