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Band: Shellac

Postby olivier on Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:15 pm

:twisted:
not on the head please .... :wink:
if no solutions then no problem.
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Postby the Classical on Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:38 pm

not crap

trainer's in the band, no way it could be crap
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Postby mattw on Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:55 pm

Everyone has their Shellac stories, I'm sure...

Those two nights at the GAMH in San Francisco a couple years back were something else though, what a lineup: Neurosis, Zeni Geva, Oxbow, Thrones, Isis...what a fucking rock show. Bob's t-shirts were funny ("Cheer up Emo Dude" the 2nd night, "I Am Still A Virgin" the 1st)

My friend is still creeped out by Steve writing 'As blue as your eyes, lover..." on his Terraform LP at the Cookesville (?) TN show with Hosemobile...
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Postby Lobster Magnet on Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:52 pm

mattw wrote:Everyone has their Shellac stories, I'm sure...

Cheer up Emo Dude
Hahaha that is great.
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Postby bomberz1qr20 on Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:46 pm

the Classical wrote:not crap

trainer's in the band, no way it could be crap


I'd say the drums really save that band.

:P
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Postby Chris Hardings on Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:47 pm

Actually, if you look at any band that's good, their drummer is good. Replace any of those drummers with slightly less adequate drummers and it immediately makes a band no good.

Have you ever heard Nirvana's Bleach? They were horrible without Dave Grohl. (although I'd rather listen to bleach than Nevermind)
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Postby bomberz1qr20 on Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:12 am

Chris Hardings wrote:
Have you ever heard Nirvana's Bleach? They were horrible without Dave Grohl. (although I'd rather listen to bleach than Nevermind)


There was more than one drummer on that record actually. A drummer named Chad Channing played on most of it, and Dale Crover (Melvins) plays on two songs. Play the record without reading the notes and I'm sure you'll figure out which two.

:D

I remember watching Grohl play in Scream on their last tour and I was really blown away, I was pretty stoked to hear when he joined Nirvana. Nice kid.
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Postby Danm on Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:59 am

They have a song about squirels!

Come on!
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Postby LaSalle bon Dioxide on Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:27 pm

bomberz1qr20 wrote:
the Classical wrote:not crap

trainer's in the band, no way it could be crap


I'd say the drums really save that band.

:P


I think Shellac is competent all the way around. Todd Trainer is a great drummer indeed, but the guitar and bass playing certainly does it for me... Especially on At Action Park.
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Postby bonati on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:17 am

Goes without sayin', NOT CRIZZAP. One of the few bands whose records almost perfectly represent their live performance. Consistently awesome. I think they set the standard for quality control in rock music.

But on a Fanboy note, Todd is the most interesting element in this band. I have learned alot about good rock drumming by watching him play. And he looks like a comic book assassin or something. I fear him. This may sound weird to y'all, but I always wondered how much better the movie "The Professional" would've been if Jean Reno's part was played by Todd Trainer. Can you see that?
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Postby Angus Jung on Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:10 pm

[quote="Chris Hardings"]Actually, if you look at any band that's good, their drummer is good. [/quote]

This is almost true, except for

CRAZY HORSE (30 yrs of tub incompetence)
Wire (I still smile at his fuck-up on "12XU" when I hear that song)
Big Black
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Postby tim on Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:08 pm

not crap. no explanation needed, but i'll just say that i saw them play at 11 AM on sunday morning in a record store. can you beat that?
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Postby mattw on Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:25 am

Was it one of the breakfast things? My cousin went to one of those in Minneapolis....someone in the audience asked Steve how he got his guitar sound and he replied "I pick the strings and they oscillate"
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Postby the Classical on Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:01 am

tim wrote:not crap. no explanation needed, but i'll just say that i saw them play at 11 AM on sunday morning in a record store. can you beat that?


yes I can
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Postby O H Lee on Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:40 pm

Any band with Todd Trainer is NOT CRAP
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Postby bdp on Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:43 am

Not crap. No way.

Saw Shellac at Victoria University Orientation in Wellington New Zealand. Got to unload the gear. Got to get Steve an aspirin. Got the piss taken out of my accent by Bob. Got to drive them to their hotel. Oh, and got to see the standout live show of my still-hanging-onto-adolescent life. Who else could possibly get away with a question and answer session, invite some dude out of the crowd to play drums, and nail every crowd calling heckler with witty sound bite sized retorts WHILST delivering no-shit rock and roll.
And did I mention they rocked?

And every time an engineer asks me how I want my drums to sound I reach for At Action Park.
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Postby Mike Stanton on Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:01 pm

LaSalle bon Dioxide wrote:
bomberz1qr20 wrote:
the Classical wrote:not crap

trainer's in the band, no way it could be crap


I'd say the drums really save that band.

:P


I think Shellac is competent all the way around. Todd Trainer is a great drummer indeed, but the guitar and bass playing certainly does it for me... Especially on At Action Park.


I really don't have much to say on this subject. I just really wanted to quote a quote, that was quoting a quote, that was quoting a quote, if that makes any sense.


Oh, yea Shellac is awesome. I wonder what steve has to say about this band?
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Postby Chris G on Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:49 pm

Alright, y'all. This is getting out of hand.

I think we've strayed way beyond the intent of crap/not crap, which -- correct me if I'm wrong -- was to make folks boldly go out on a limb on bands that straddle the line. (Go back and read the original post on this.) Sure, there are some contrarians and wiseasses who will shit all over Shellac, but that's not nearly as entertaining as reading a overly rationalized justification of oh, say, why Ministry is Not Crap or the tortured and flawed -- though no doubt hilarious -- defense of a shitewad like Henry Rollins.

Shellac? This one's a pumpkin coming across home plate. No offense, but boring.

OK OK, I did put the Stooges on there a while back, but they've got that whole reunion-y thing going on, which ups the waffle factor for a lot of folks. I just wanted to see how people weighed in on that.

Ciao
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Postby Maurice on Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:58 pm

While most certainly Not Crap, I have to say that the lyrics on 1000 Hurts work against them. It's an exquisitely performed and recorded album in both formats (I plunked down for the vinyl/CD combo), but the lyrics...oh G-d, the lyrics are just not happening for me. Or, rather, they're happening all too frequently in all the wrong ways.

Still, the band overall, emphatically not crap.
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Postby gcbv on Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:58 am

These guys are from England, and who gives a shit?

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But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.
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