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Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

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Episode VIII - Glorified fan-fiction or genuine STAR WARS?

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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby TomWanderer on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:49 am

Loved it. The moment the movie ended I was just thinking "hmmm..." and my wife turned to me and was like "That. Fucking. Ruled." and the more we talked about it, and I thought about it, I wholeheartedly agreed. It just took a little bit to sink in. Holy shit, Mark Hamill acted his fucking ass off. I can't stop thinking about his big scene at the end. It was incredible and so outside of what I was expecting. I guess that's my take on a lot of this movie; not what I was expecting, and almost all in a good way. They didn't touch so many things I was expecting this movie to "explain". Yes, the movie was long and yes, there were scenes/sequences/etc. that were sort of unnecessary, but I really appreciated the lack of hand holding and awkward explanatory monologues. Think of all the crazy shit the OG trilogy mentioned and never explained...that was a big part of this whole universe building stuff. Also...there's another film in this trilogy! I think it's too early to call foul on bigger arcs and where they settled in this installment. New cast is still awesome. I think Rian Johnson did an incredible job making a truly interesting story that balanced the drama/action/humor/weirdness (it's fucking space fantasy!) of the overall Star Wars feeling while bringing some originality and truly artful design. Looking forward to seeing it again.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Nate Dort on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:58 am

The more I think about this movie, the more I dislike it. I'd rank it slightly above the prequels, I guess.

I think it was trying way too hard to have the humor of a Marvel movie. Too many jokes and visual gags. Luke seemed off. The blade of grass on Rey’s hand, the brushing the shoulder off thing, milking that thing on the island, were totally out of character for someone that was supposedly in deep depression.

For as terrified as Luke was of Rey going into that dark hole during their first lesson, that hole was a huge letdown when she actually did go in there.

The unceremonious killing of Snoke was a pretty huge letdown also. That’s two major characters that Kylo Ren has killed just by turning a lightsaber on into them. No revelations as to who Snoke was.

They ham-fisted Benecio Del Toro’s character in there, and his performance was basically a cross between Tom Waits and Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys.

The entire casino planet scene was unnecessary.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby yard barf on Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:15 am

Nate Dort wrote:The more I think about this movie, the more I dislike it.


I wasn't so into it either. And my wife, who always has lots of positive things to say about any movie, didn't go for it either. It was fine, it was long, it looked good. The twist at the end with Luke, was well set up.

It was certainly better than the prequels, which were basically Star Wars C-span, with everyone sitting around, talking politics.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby m3kcomp on Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:50 pm

I was bummed throughout the first half of it, really bummed. Somewhere early in the second half I turned to my 7 year old nephew who looked at me wide eyed and said, "This is GOOD!"

I'm 40. This isn't arthouse cinema, it's fucking entertainment...

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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby seanurban on Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:07 pm

m3kcomp wrote:This isn't arthouse cinema
But that's not the argument. It's more like, "This is my childhood you're ruining!"
People our age are enormously attached to these tropes. I kinda get it, but I'm willing to watch these through the younger generation's eyes. Is JJA's vision any better than George Lucas'? I doubt it, but I'm not the one investing Millions of dollars in a fantasy story.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Anthony Flack on Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:06 pm

I guess it depends whether you look at it as a kids' film (like Star Wars), or a franchise that exists to pander to gen X nostalgia (like Star Wars).
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby VaticanShotglass on Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:07 pm

So after sleeping on it I keep remembering more dumb things in the movie. That was a weird, weird movie. I still stand by what I liked. A friend I know didn't like Yoda. I liked Yoda. Whatever. Yoda has a sense of humor. Teachers need a sense of humor and a sense of absurdity.

There was a lot to take in, and I definitely latched onto what liked and let the other stuff roll off. I don't want to see it again for some time. I'd just notice things that bug me. Here's a few more.

Dumb battering ram laser.
Dumb disrupted suicide run.
Ugly dreadnaught.
Ugly Snoke's ugly stealth bomber shaped capital ship.
Laura Dern seeming kinda strange, can't put my finger on it.
Goofy salt foxes.
Stupid evil BB unit.
Stupid BB-8 AT-ST.

And maybe the thing is a mess as a whole, but I can't tell as it was too much to take in. I was happy to like some things in it.

Strong B-, maybe?
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Anthony Flack on Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:57 pm

I'm going to have to see it just to see what Laura Dern is doing in a Star Wars film. Although... her father is Bruce Dern who starred in Silent Running which was one of Star Wars' principal influences. So she has some, uh, hereditary precedence? Daughter of the actor who starred in the film that inspired Star Wars.

You guys reckon it's funny? Has Star Wars gone ironic? Is it very "now"?
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby llllllllllllllllllllllll on Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:26 am

There’s just some silly scenes in there. It was ok. I didn’t really hear much about it before it came out other than a Star Wars movie was happening, and I was pretty surprised afterwards that people are so worked up about it. It was obviously way better than anything George Lucas would be doing now.
There’s probably a lot to be said about people wanting gritty anti-heroes right now, which is fine, I just think there are better places to look for that sort of thing than in a blockbuster franchise.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Tom on Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:19 pm

Anthony Flack wrote:I'm going to have to see it just to see what Laura Dern is doing in a Star Wars film. Although... her father is Bruce Dern who starred in Silent Running which was one of Star Wars' principal influences. So she has some, uh, hereditary precedence? Daughter of the actor who starred in the film that inspired Star Wars.

You guys reckon it's funny? Has Star Wars gone ironic? Is it very "now"?


She was good in it, though as some here (maybe) mentioned, they dressed her up like a hunger games extra and looked out of place.

I wouldn't say it's funny, but it might have a couple more jokes than most start wars movies. They all have a fair amount of humor in them. The only times it really out of place is when Poe gives his smartass lines. They just don't fit in the context (example, in TFA - he just saw his buddy get killed and he's cracking jokes with the killer "You talk first? I talk first?").

I think that so many of the complaints about any star wars movie since Return of The Jedi stem from the fact that wish as we might - we're not 8 years old anymore and while the old movies have long since been sanctified, people our age have a hard time coming to terms that these really are movies for kids, or at least kids are a major portion of the audience. Kids like goofy stuff in space movies. I know I did when I was a kid. Old argument, I know but it's something I keep having to remind myself of whenever I get bothered watching a kids movie.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby stewie on Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:41 pm

Snoke's throne room looked like a set from the Flash Gordon movie.

Thought that was fun.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Tom on Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:04 pm

stewie wrote:Snoke's throne room looked like a set from the Flash Gordon movie.

Thought that was fun.


Yeah, I loved that. There were a bunch of various scenes that really reminded me of early 80's low budget scifi\fantasy.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby El Protoolio on Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:53 pm

I do not understand some of the hate. I’ve seen it twice now. It was fucking awesome. I’ve been a fanboy since I was 4 years old in 1977. I don’t remember life without Star Wars. It was a great addition to the series.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby VaticanShotglass on Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:58 pm

Tom wrote:
stewie wrote:Snoke's throne room looked like a set from the Flash Gordon movie.

Thought that was fun.


Yeah, I loved that. There were a bunch of various scenes that really reminded me of early 80's low budget scifi\fantasy.


Yep. I really liked that stuff.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Twilight Sparkle on Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:38 pm

I'm never going to watch this movie, but it was okay.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby jimmy two hands on Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:52 am

I liked it quite a lot. A few parts fell flat, and at times the story felt either rushed or scrambled but all in all it was the best one since the original trilogy. I’m really glad they didn’t make Rey another Skywalker or some other established character’s daughter and they did t fuck around with Snoke’s back story like all the fan theories wanted to do.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Evanc521 on Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:26 am

I really dug it, there were cerainly a couple of weak points but i enjoyed myself immensely. Big ups for using more practical effects. Also the battle scenes on Crait were absolutely gorgeous.
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Janeway on Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:08 pm

shut up i didn't read anything you guys said cause I'm not i just finished return of the jedi yesterday but i don't know the natalie portman stuff yet so shut up really quick but i can't wait to see wtf you guys are talkin about with these sta
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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Janeway on Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:11 pm

shut up i was trying to say all these star wars

whatever, you guys get it


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Re: Disney Product: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

Postby Janeway on Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:47 pm

shut up i just wanna eat ribs s for dinner with my future ex husband and shut up don't tell ,me...........
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