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BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby P.J. Craven on Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:02 pm

Texas BBQ vs. Kansas City BBQ
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby geiginni on Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:29 pm

Going with Texas here.

I like good brisket. Not a fan of ribs.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby Janeway on Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:47 pm

tenessee baby, low and slow and mustard-based sauce. tennessee mountain bbq and moonshine and moon pies and rc.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby Janeway on Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:42 pm

texas makes me think of the texas chainsaw massacre's chili cookoff how the dad won every year servin gup human meat, and kansas city makes me think

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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby dontfeartheringo on Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:00 pm

The perennial battle for second place in the American BBQ competition, behind Eastern Carolina.

I dunno, Texas and KC are both OK. Western Carolina isn't BAD, but, like these other two, it's just not AS GOOD as Eastern Carolina. I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby OrthodoxEaster on Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:59 am

dontfeartheringo wrote:The perennial battle for second place in the American BBQ competition, behind Eastern Carolina.

I dunno, Texas and KC are both OK. Western Carolina isn't BAD, but, like these other two, it's just not AS GOOD as Eastern Carolina. I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed.


Eastern NC rules so hard b/c the red pepper and vinegar has a nice acid element. Cuts thru the fat. Less sweet than everyone else's barbecue. And chopped pig trumps beef any day of the week. Just don't serve that shit too wet and it's perfect.

Second place for me would be whatever they serve further west in NC and in parts of Georgia. Still piggy. Dry-ish and w/sauce to be added at the diner's discretion. But a little sweeter. Pulled, w/more tomato emphasis.

That cow stuff is quite good but it just cannot compare.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby 154 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:28 am

OrthodoxEaster wrote:Second place for me would be whatever they serve further west in NC and in parts of Georgia. Still piggy. Dry-ish and w/sauce to be added at the diner's discretion. But a little sweeter. Pulled, w/more tomato emphasis.


While both styles (wisely) pack an apple cider vinegar-y punch, to me tomato will always be better than no tomato. But no complaints either way, and I had to quit shelling out for this 'artisanal' stuff because it would go so fast.

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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby first2letters on Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:29 am

Texas has a bunch of varieties, so it's hard to pit (oops) the whole state against KC. My personal preference is without sauce and light on seasoning (usually just salt and pepper), with the quality/variety of wood and the skills of the pitmaster being the stuff that sets the dish apart. So, Texas, I guess?
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby Tommy on Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:59 pm

Not a lot for me to eat at a BBQ place anymore, but my fav was always several of the Carolina styles.

Going with Texas over KC because brisket > ribs. Fuck both for championing shitty white bread though.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby RSMurphy on Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:46 pm

Tommy wrote:Fuck both for championing shitty white bread though.


Boo! What are you going to sop all that excess sauce up with, son? Rye? Wheat?
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby Major on Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:50 pm

I guess Texas since I live here and don't really know shit about BBQ, but one of the best things I've ever eaten was a burnt end burger in Kansas City.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby OrthodoxEaster on Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:17 pm

RSMurphy wrote:
Tommy wrote:Fuck both for championing shitty white bread though.


Boo! What are you going to sop all that excess sauce up with, son? Rye? Wheat?


It's not trad, but the best thing I've ever used for this purpose is a papo seco, one of those firm, white Portuguese rolls.

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Fuck a cotton-ass slice of white bread.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby RSMurphy on Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:36 pm

Tommy wrote:Fuck both for championing shitty white bread though.


OrthodoxEaster wrote:Fuck a cotton-ass slice of white bread.


You two are nuts--NVTS nuts.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby 154 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:56 pm

While I'm no fan of white bread I kind of see the point: to mostly stay out of the way. But if I'm going shitty I'm using Hawaiian rolls.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby Madman Munt on Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:24 pm

OrthodoxEaster wrote:Fuck a cotton-ass slice of white bread.


Where did you come from? Where did you go?
Where did you come from, Cotton-Ass Roll?


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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby Trey on Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:34 pm

As a lifelong Texan, I love the home team when it's the good stuff. Good brisket or ribs should be eaten without sauce. I'd say perhaps 3 out of every 10 BBQ joints in TX have great brisket. There's nothing worse than average brisket. But the best of it, you are to eat without the sauce.

I only had KC bbq once when I worked there, around 2005. I don't remember it well enough to rate it. I remember that I enjoyed it for what it was, but it was more sauce based, and didn't have the the smoky flavor going on.

I lived a few years in Georgia and lots of places had pulled pork drenched in sauce. I liked some of it, but again it was not what I think of when I think of bbq.

Moist brisket with smoky charred ends, when done right, is my favorite thing in bbq, so I vote TX.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby yard barf on Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:12 pm

154 wrote:While I'm no fan of white bread I kind of see the point: to mostly stay out of the way

Exactly. It's one of those instances where if it were better, it'd be worse.

The couple times I was in Kansas City and had BBQ, it was annoyingly sweet, tomatoey, and bland.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby atomjackfuser on Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:52 pm

I've never had Texas BBQ so I can't have an honest, informed opinion, but if you like Brisket, get Burnt Ends next time your are in Kansas City. Arthur Bryants, Q-39, SLAPS, or Oklahoma....errrr Joe's Kansas City (only available Wednesday nights or Saturdays lunch) are good. Get them early though as the stuff runs out pretty quickly.

WHAT ARE BURNT ENDS?

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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby yard barf on Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:57 pm

atomjackfuser wrote:I've never had Texas BBQ so I can't have an honest, informed opinion, but if you like Brisket, get Burnt Ends next time your are in Kansas City. Arthur Bryants, Q-39, SLAPS, or Oklahoma....errrr Joe's Kansas City (only available Wednesday nights or Saturdays lunch) are good. Get them early though as the stuff runs out pretty quickly.

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Thanks for the recommendations! We went to Arthur Bryant's and maybe we caught them on a bad day cause it wasn't so great. We tried to go to Joe's, I think. That's the place in the back of a gas station, right? Man, the line was out the door and around the block so we didn't get to try it, but clearly, it is kicking ass.

My wife and I both thought Kansas City was a great town, and I always tell people it's a very underrated city, along with Milwaukee and Cleveland.
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Re: BBQ Either/Or: Texas vs. Kansas City

Postby OrthodoxEaster on Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:07 pm

yard barf wrote:
154 wrote:While I'm no fan of white bread I kind of see the point: to mostly stay out of the way


Exactly. It's one of those instances where if it were better, it'd be worse.


See now, this doesn't wash w/me. I'm from Philadelphia; the classic accompaniment to a steak sandwich is Cheez Whiz. But it's also fucking disgusting and your sandwich is gonna taste much, much better w/provolone instead.

Same deal w/industrial white bread and barbecue. I kinda sorta understand what you mean: For example, some kinda Nordic rye or fermented sourdough thing would be totally distracting on a barbecue sandwich. But the Portuguese roll is fucking perfect. It's soft and soaks up the sauce. But it's crusty enough to have a mild personality and not degrade into mush. Has integrity, but just a little. Plus it doesn't possess that horrible sweet flavor that industrial white can impart on a barbecue sandwich. Seriously, try it sometime.
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