Band: My Bloody Valentine

[eephour]

There is an itchy and scratchy with the title My Bloody Valentine , thats what made me think that.

[atnight]

I have all the early records and if you don't like Cramps and Byrds than yeah, I understand, but MBV obviously didn't stop there and we wouldn't still be talking about them if they had.

Ecstasy, Strawberry Wine, Feed Me With Your Kiss, You Made Me Realise, Isn't Anything, Tremolo, Glider and Loveless are all fairly representational works. Especially for when they were made.

This band (or guy) pioneered a style of guitar playing and the wake of it inspired not only copycat artists but an entire movement in music with quality bands as well as those beyond the mega-genre of rock/pop.

It's disappointing that nothing definitive has been released since Loveless, but calling the band 'CRAP' for what might've been is ridiculous.

Not to mention they pulled off most of the technical recording that Loveless is live. I was young when I saw them in '92, but it remains the most affecting and disorienting live band I can recall witnessing.

Like any band, there are things about them you can knock. My opinion is just as anecdotal as anyone's, but some of the negative comments in this thread seriously lack perspective. Based on what I've read, some peoples' record collections seem to BEGIN in 1991.

[Sebastian J.]

I like most of the songs on Loveless, so not crap, with a few waffless

[Mose Varty-Seppanen]

I've been going thru a phase of semi-hating many of the bands that made me want to play back when I was a teenager. Particularly Dinosaur Jr and My Bloody Valentine. I mean, Mascis hasn't made any real artistic progress since Green Mind in '91 and Loveless came out in what, '92?

I used to love My Bloody Valentine but there are parts of Loveless that sound almost uncomfortably close to what I would imagine a fusion of The Jesus and Mary Chain, Dinosaur jr/Sentridoh and... Clannad or something. Crap on paper. In reality not crap tho' but the idea that is was so hard to come up with a follow up to equal or better it seems incredible with hindsight. Loveless has some great things on it but it's overrated.

I actually really like the earlier Sunny Sundae Smile - Ecstacy stuff.

My Bloody Valentine as a whole .... um...not crap.

[madmanmunt]

I remember hearing Loomer on the radio when Loveless first came out and it sounded like nothing else I had ever heard, just a whisper of a vocal melody almost totally obscured by roaring noise, as if the tape was being being consumed by flames during recording or some other such overblown simile.

I wish the record still sounded like that to me these days. I would love it if they put out a "total-wall-of-noise" remix of Loveless.

[SecondEdition]

Loveless is a grossly overrated record. The sound of it is orgasmic. Half of the songs on it are average-to-shockingly-boring.

[John George Peppers]

I would love it if they put out a "total-wall-of-noise" remix of Loveless.

As opposed to the very straight forward rock of the currently released version of Loveless.

[madmanmunt]

I would love it if they put out a "total-wall-of-noise" remix of Loveless.

As opposed to the very straight forward rock of the currently released version of Loveless.

I just doesn't do it for me in the same way anymore, you know? I feel I need a higher dose these days.

[John George Peppers]

I would love it if they put out a "total-wall-of-noise" remix of Loveless.

As opposed to the very straight forward rock of the currently released version of Loveless.

I just doesn't do it for me in the same way anymore, you know? I feel I need a higher dose these days.

I hear ya, I'm just kidding around. Im up for more delay(backwards or forword) and reverb on anything, anyday.

[Jodi S.]

"Soon" still sends chills up my spine.

"Glider" too.

I still have my 7" single of it, so when I finally get that jukebox I can stick it in there.

[a. james]

Loveless is a grossly overrated record. The sound of it is orgasmic. Half of the songs on it are average-to-shockingly-boring.

[Mama Clortho]

Loveless is the only record i can think of that desperately needs to be remastered.

It sounds as if it has been run through PT le 5 times.

[rashiedgarrison]

I saw them loads of times, including way back when Dave was singing. Even then, they were painful to listen to, in a good way - the guitars were so shrill and trebly. And LOUD. Later on, when they would do 'You Made Me Realise' or 'Feed Me With Your Kiss', live - amazing. So much fuzz. So dirty. And the drummer Colm - one of the great drummers at that point.

On record, I dunno. I don't listen to them much anymore, apart from Lovelee Sweet Darlene and Sunny Sundae Smile. And a bit of the Ecstacy mini lp. So make of that what you will.

Not crap, WF 8?

[Surfrider]

I would love it if they put out a "total-wall-of-noise" remix of Loveless.

As opposed to the very straight forward rock of the currently released version of Loveless.

I just doesn't do it for me in the same way anymore, you know? I feel I need a higher dose these days.

If you can get your hands on the 10 minute version of 'Glider' (contender for my favourite song of all time), then whack it on and crank the volume really fucking loud. Immense.

Sadly, it is only available on a really quite hard to find 12" record as the flipside to the god-awful Andy Wetherall remix of 'Soon'. Somekind of semi-promo release thing. It is out there though. Actually, maybe i should get round to doing a rip of it to the computer.

[154]

It sounds as if it has been run through PT le 5 times.

heh, nah, i think that's just the way it was made. i remember reading that Sheilds actually went to the pressing plant to make sure they didn't do anything funny like transferring the mix to DAT or something. total control freak (in a good way).

the bass and 'drums' aren't the point of MBV anyway.

[emmanuelle cunt]

I don't think 'Loveless' is as good as everyone say it is. But it is good so NOT CRAP.

[emmanuelle cunt]

double post.

[Rimbaud III]

Last night's gig: NC.

My ears are still ringing.

[Josef K]

Last night's gig: NC.

My ears are still ringing.

Were you at the roundhouse, Rimbaud?

Here's a quote from someone on the Teenage Fanclub forum.

Never have I been so disappointed.
I mean, I love this band, yet it saddens me to say that at the Roundhouse tonight, they sucked.
Firstly, the sound was abysmal. The monkey on the mixing desk had no fucking idea. At least I'm assuming it was a monkey, as surely no human being would have left the vocals inaudible, or ignored the many people clamouring for the vocals to be turned up. I shouted myself hoarse. Mrs Lasermonkey actually went over to the mixing desk and asked the "sound engineer" to turn the vocals up. "I can't" was the response.
Then you've no fucking right being behind that mixing desk, you twat.
Ok, not the band's fault, but they would have been able to hear everyone shouting for the vocals to be turned up, but said nothing.
Actually, they said nothing all bloody night.
Bilinda's vocals were only just audible. Kevin's weren't at all, (when he could be bothered to sing) even during the pauses in "You Made me Realise". That must have taken some doing.

I tried so hard to get into it, but it soon became apparent that Kevin would rather have been doing anything else than being on stage. He moped around like a sulky teenager and played with all the conviction of a lettuce. At least Deb and Colm looked like they were getting into it.

My advice if you have tickets for the following shows? Sell them. Offload them onto a tout or some other sucker, because MBV do not deserve your money.
We're already in the process of trying to get a refund.

[cjh]

I'll reserve judgement until Manchester next week but there are some favourable reviews too - Roundhouse gig last night on the Drowned In Sound forum.