Band: My Bloody Valentine

[rappard]

So...regardless of format I'll still be buying these, but does anyone know if they plan pressing the reissues onto vinyl too?

CD only as far as I know.

Plain Recordings did 180 gr. vinyl reissues of Isn't Anything and Loveless a while back (2003) and they sound great despite Plain Recordings' shady reputation - so I guess this is one of the few times they actually did things right. The Loveless edition is still going for silly money on Discogs and fleaBay but Isn't Anything can be found quite cheaply ($15-20 range).

[Isabelle Gall]

So...regardless of format I'll still be buying these, but does anyone know if they plan pressing the reissues onto vinyl too?

CD only as far as I know.

Plain Recordings did 180 gr. vinyl reissues of Isn't Anything and Loveless a while back (2003) and they sound great despite Plain Recordings' shady reputation - so I guess this is one of the few times they actually did things right. The Loveless edition is still going for silly money on Discogs and fleaBay but Isn't Anything can be found quite cheaply ($15-20 range).

KS: Ownership and control is important, because if you don't own what you do, all sorts of stupid stuff happens to it, and people spend good money on garbage. For example, in America, Warner Bros. licensed Loveless and Isn't Anything to Plain Records, and they basically just ripped [the audio] off the CD and put it on vinyl [in 2003]. They did an awful, terrible job. It was done without my permission, and the sound quality was 100% wrong. It was a rip off to anyone who bought it. But I didn't know anything about it until they were in the shops.

He does also add that there should be vinyl reissues in a few months.

[rappard]

Thanks, I stand corrected. Rumor was that Plain used the original stampers (correct term?) for pressing these, but apparently not. Time to plonk my copies on Discogs.

[enframed]

KS: Ownership and control is important, because if you don't own what you do, all sorts of stupid stuff happens to it, and people spend good money on garbage. For example, in America, Warner Bros. licensed Loveless and Isn't Anything to Plain Records, and they basically just ripped [the audio] off the CD and put it on vinyl [in 2003]. They did an awful, terrible job. It was done without my permission, and the sound quality was 100% wrong. It was a rip off to anyone who bought it. But I didn't know anything about it until they were in the shops.

He does also add that there should be vinyl reissues in a few months.

Fascinating. Thanks for that information. I'm happy I never purchased that issue of Loveless.

I really like Loveless and Glider, I don't like Isn't Anything. Overall, not crap.

[cerebralheadtrip]

Kevin Shields accuses Sony of hiding Loveless masters

[cak]

I'm so happy about these reissues, and especially that Kevin Shields remastered them himself. I'll be sure to buy all of them when I have the funds.

[alex maiolo]

It's all about Tremolo!

yes! best thing they've done. better than loveless.

The non-record collecting world is about to experience Honey Power. By far their best song, and I'm a big fan.

-A

Spot on Alex, as per usual.

I never understood why this one didn't make the Masterpiece Record. Soon was on an EP first, so it's not the redundancy thing. Maybe it's because What You Want has a similar guitar line in a different key - that "durur rahn nah nah, durur rahn nah nah" line, which I love. However, Honey Power is a stronger song, and that end part would transition beautifully into the other songs, keeping the "body of work" theme in tact.

I guess Kev had a plan though, and like most of the Pale Saints catalog, I somewhat like knowing about it when others don't. You know, you meet someone who is really moved by the gaze/dream stuff, not just name checking it because it's a "thing" now, and you can say "well if you like that, then check THIS out" and put on Ordeal, True Coming Dream, Way The World Is, or Honey Power and get that great feeling you get when you show someone something special.

After reviewing this thread I realized I've never posted in it until yesterday. What the hell is that? They're only in my top 5 favorite bands and Kevin is one of my top 5 biggest influences...

-A

[enframed]

Kevin Shields accuses Sony of hiding Loveless masters

Interesting interview. Thanks. I'm really looking forward to these remasters.

[The Ditch]

Kevin Shields accuses Sony of hiding Loveless masters

Interesting interview. Thanks. I'm really looking forward to these remasters.

Both versions of Loveless now in glorious stream-o-vision.

It's the EP compilation I'm looking forward to the most but I'll probably end up getting them all at some point.

[Gramsci]

I had a little listen on the Guardian website. Sounds great, but I'll be waiting for the vinyl.

[AnthonyVillalobos]

A couple more songs I found on youtube from the reissue of the early material/demos:

[rappard]

For the impatient among us:
http://www.qobuz.com/album/eps-1988-199 ... 6443332096

[rappard]

Great (not):
http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.bl ... sters.html

[AnthonyVillalobos]

Great (not):
http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.bl ... sters.html

Just heard it. I don't know how they could have missed that. I have a feeling Kevin is going to be bummed out hard by that.

[tracingerror]

On the Plain--

We now know the original master of the album is a DAT. The original vinyl is mastered from that. The Plain is likely from a DAT copy of the master, or at worst from the cd, which is just the DAT downsampled from 48 to 44 kHz. And then mastered by someone else.

The Plain is arguably pretty much as close to the "source" as the original vinyl.

I just played it back to back with my Creation UK copy and there is very little difference.

Wise thing is to part with any vinyl copies, since both are essentially just the cd anyway, and both are getting big money, and hope/wait for a vinyl pressing from the new "analog" master.

[four_oclocker_2]

Great (not):
http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.bl ... sters.html

Just heard it. I don't know how they could have missed that. I have a feeling Kevin is going to be bummed out hard by that.

This is such bullshit. How can someone take so long to release a product and allow it to remained fucked up like that? Shame on Sony for not saying anything yet, and shame on the people who are just accepting it (see the pitchfork review.) If I paid upwards of $20 or something for these discs and got things that were mislabeled and glitchy, I'd be all kinds of pissed off.

For what it's worth, I bought one of those Plain reissues of "Loveless" years ago and honestly, it sounds fine to me. Never compared it to a non-reissue, but it sounded good enough through my speakers.

[stipendlax]

Wise thing is to part with any vinyl copies, since both are essentially just the cd anyway, and both are getting big money, and hope/wait for a vinyl pressing from the new "analog" master.

This.

I was horsing around on discogs/ebay and the amount of money this record is going for is ridiculous.

Proof: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Records-/306/i. ... e+loveless

[enframed]

On the Plain--

We now know the original master of the album is a DAT. The original vinyl is mastered from that. The Plain is likely from a DAT copy of the master, or at worst from the cd, which is just the DAT downsampled from 48 to 44 kHz. And then mastered by someone else.

The Plain is arguably pretty much as close to the "source" as the original vinyl.

I just played it back to back with my Creation UK copy and there is very little difference.

Wise thing is to part with any vinyl copies, since both are essentially just the cd anyway, and both are getting big money, and hope/wait for a vinyl pressing from the new "analog" master.

This is all well and good but when you buy Plain you risk ending up with a shit pressing, their QC leaves *much* to be desired.

My friend sent me the files of the EP's, they sound good but I have nothing to which to compare.

[Sebastian J.]

some MBV vid I filmed at ATP 2009

https://vimeo.com/46347531

[:::]

NC

LOL, Kevin Shields, so funny with your "new album" talk! We maybe send a delegation with prying and/or chiseling implements so as to remove the bong from your hand, yes? LOL, too funny!