home studios equipment staff/friends booking/rates for sale forum contact

Nutball: Neil Young

Vote and debate.

Moderators: kerble, Electrical-Staff

Nutball: Neil Young

Crap
22
7%
Not Crap
306
93%
 
Total votes : 328

Nutball: Neil Young

Postby Angus Jung on Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:41 pm

Neil Young.
Angus Jung
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
 
Posts: 8800
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:04 pm
Location: Portland, OR

Postby geiginni on Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:12 pm

I do not at all understand the longstanding "indie/underground" appeal of Neal Young. Few of his musical contemporaries or peers seem to have attained such respect. Plus, his stuff just bores me shitless. Also:

-His whiney, candy-ass, little-girly voice

-That "Let's Roll" sign-me-up for the Dubyajungen piece of shit

-That "Rocking in the Free World" piece of shit that I was forced to be party to covering, behind a drum set, on far too many instances from high-school thru college.

-Hearing his whiney, candy-ass, little-girly voice all too often - as he is a pop culture icon.

All Hail...

King CRAPmehameha,
User avatar
geiginni
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
 
Posts: 5133
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:33 pm
Location: Mediating the Strong Force

Postby gcbv on Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:03 pm

I won't even try to dissuade the common reader from finding the last set of comments an innaccurate, irresponsible posting. For shame.

Neil Young. A very good man. A very strange bird. A very talented man.

Neil Young has "indie cred," as you say, because he walks his own walk, and stuck to his guns. Read a little bit about him. "Shakey" is an exceptional bio.

NOT CRAP, not at all.
But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.
User avatar
gcbv
ed o'neill
ed o'neill
 
Posts: 1049
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:20 am
Location: Cincinnati, OH

Postby geiginni on Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:14 pm

How is my original post inaccurate? I did not state any facts about the man that were untrue. How could it possibly be irresponsible? My statement is based solely on my own opinion and experiences hearing that man's music. Are the Neal Young Secret Police on their way to my house right now so that I may be hauled away and ReYoungducated at the Rolling Stone magazine corporate offices?

He may indeed be a very good man, an eccentric man, and perhaps a talented man. I can respect him for doing his "thing" his way and by his own rules. But, at any rate, in this forum I am entitled to one of two opinions, and since I cannot stand his music or his goddamn voice, I have chosen. Sorry to offend, but I'm sticking with CRAP!
User avatar
geiginni
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
 
Posts: 5133
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:33 pm
Location: Mediating the Strong Force

Postby Seaside Lounge on Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:09 pm

Ha ha hahahaha. Sooooooo not crap.
User avatar
Seaside Lounge
carter family
carter family
 
Posts: 378
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:48 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NY

Postby Angriest_Dragon on Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:29 am

NOT CRAP
User avatar
Angriest_Dragon
Saint Who Rules w/ Extensive Magnanimity
Saint Who Rules w/ Extensive Magnanimity
 
Posts: 2090
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 6:25 pm
Location: Screaming Monkey Medical Research Center

Postby joshsolberg on Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:38 am

geiginni wrote:How is my original post inaccurate? I did not state any facts about the man that were untrue. How could it possibly be irresponsible? My statement is based solely on my own opinion and experiences hearing that man's music. Are the Neal Young Secret Police on their way to my house right now so that I may be hauled away and ReYoungducated at the Rolling Stone magazine corporate offices?

He may indeed be a very good man, an eccentric man, and perhaps a talented man. I can respect him for doing his "thing" his way and by his own rules. But, at any rate, in this forum I am entitled to one of two opinions, and since I cannot stand his music or his goddamn voice, I have chosen. Sorry to offend, but I'm sticking with CRAP!


Who is Neal Young?
If it wasn't for landlords, there would have been no Karl Marx.
User avatar
joshsolberg
dag hammarskjöld
dag hammarskjöld
 
Posts: 596
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:16 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Postby cutshaw on Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:57 am

Oh come on, not crap.

In New Zealand they have a radio station called Radio Hauraki that plays "CLASSIC ROCK.........THAT ROCKS!!!!!"

Last time I was there I was waiting at some traffic lights in Auckland when Southern Man came on. I couldn't help myself singing SOUTHUURN MAAAAYUUN!!!! at the top of my voice much at the end of that first verse, much to the surprise of the people in the cars either side of me.

I agree with the point about "keep on rockin'" though.
User avatar
cutshaw
alan dershowitz
alan dershowitz
 
Posts: 133
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:23 am
Location: Norwich UK

Postby tmidgett on Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:01 am

"keep on rockin' in the free world" is a great song

he has made some pretty bad records, but he has also made many of the very best records. and he understands how to rock as much as anyone in the history of rock.

not crap
User avatar
tmidgett
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
 
Posts: 8973
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:30 pm

Postby cprlcoffee on Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:49 am

Not Crap. On the subject of "Keep on Rockin'" How can you not love that noisy off-kilter solo in that song. With that crushing chug backbone and he just floats over the top of it with the blatantly noisy bendy rock. NOT CRAP.
User avatar
cprlcoffee
howard shore
howard shore
 
Posts: 328
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 12:44 pm
Location: DIA

Postby cjh on Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:13 am

For Zuma and On the Beach (odd that my two favourite NY albums are both heavily loaded on side 2) I'll forgive him almost anything, there are plenty of other brilliant moments scattered about though. I think I've been lucky and careful in dodging the obvious clunkers, although I think even stuff like Trans is interesting (there was a poll about that no?).

I'm going to say what everyone else does because it's true - Cortez The Killer is just magnificent, I'm thankfully able to listen to music at work and have just sat through it for the first time in quite a while. My whole brain chemistry seems to change as soon as it begins, what an utterly astounding track.
Image
User avatar
cjh
Best leader Who Realized Human Wisdom
Best leader Who Realized Human Wisdom
 
Posts: 2569
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2003 5:38 am
Location: bibbi snurr

Postby mattw on Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:02 am

I hope they finally reish Time Fades Away like they did w/ On the Beach and all the others a few years ago.

Sleeps With Angels got shoveled under the dirt pretty fast, but I think that's the best recent thing he's done.
User avatar
mattw
World's Ideal Leader w/ VersatileTalents
World's Ideal Leader w/ VersatileTalents
 
Posts: 3771
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:28 pm
Location: En la casa de tu madre

Postby The Kid on Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:38 am

I can't defend the "Let's Roll" single. I thought it was cheesy at the time, and unnecessary. It was like he felt like he had to comment on 9/11 and rushed something out. It didn't strike me as well thought out.

But come on:
everybody knows this is nowhere
harvest
after the gold rush
tonight's the night
trans
reactor
rust never sleeps
arc/weld
silver & gold...

I really like all those records.
Plus the stuff he did w/ Buffalo Springfield and CSN, some of which is also very good.
And he was in a band w/ Rick James.
I saw him play at Farm Aid once, w/ Phish. He made Phish sound like a rock band, instead of a bunch of hippies with Ph.D.'s in music, dicking around like they were getting paid by the note.
I think he pretty much does what he wants, a lot of the time what he wants to do is cool to my ears, and any props he gets are well deserved.
Not Crap.
The Kid
canasta
canasta
 
Posts: 435
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:25 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby Bradley R. Weissenberger on Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:46 am

There's really nothing to add here except that I really like Neil Young's live version of "Greensleeves". So nice.

His album art is usually great, too, especially "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere".

And there was a Neil Young line in Kurt Cobain's suicide note. I imagine that it was very disturbing for Neil Young to hear his music used that way.

I would also like to register another vote for "Rockin' In The Free World". Actually, I'd like to register a vote for both versions of that song from "Freedom". "Rockin' In The Free World" filled a specific need for me at the time it was released, and it meant a lot to me to have that song available.

That's all.
User avatar
Bradley R. Weissenberger
King Of All The Taverns
 
Posts: 7320
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:22 pm
Location: Western Michigan

Postby seanurban on Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:56 pm

Bradley R. Weissenberger wrote:I would also like to register another vote for "Rockin' In The Free World".

salut! brad, the 5th person to mention this song and the 1st to properly identify it.
surely you will be sleeping with angels on the beach under a harvest moon.
i so helpless.
User avatar
seanurban
King High
 
Posts: 4639
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:22 pm

Postby John W. on Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:38 pm

Not crap. I dig his stuff with Buffalo Springfield, too.
User avatar
John W.
Guardian Diety of the Planet
Guardian Diety of the Planet
 
Posts: 5571
Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:38 pm
Location: Louisville, KY

Postby ironyengine on Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:06 pm

"Cinnamon Girl."
I never thought I'd recover from the trouble that Youtube put me through...
User avatar
ironyengine
Humankind's Greatest Musical Genius
Humankind's Greatest Musical Genius
 
Posts: 4422
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:37 am
Location: EC MD

Postby spitfister on Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:22 pm

ironyengine wrote:"Cinnamon Girl."


I love that song, but I believe I like Killdozer's version even more.
spitfister
seminarian
seminarian
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:20 pm
Location: Central PA

Postby Mayfair on Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:25 am

Neil? Not crap, even if he writes songs like this in his old age...

'Piece Of Crap' by Neil Young

Tried to save the trees
Bought a platsic bag
The bottom fell out
It was a piece of crap

Saw it on the tube
Bought it on the phone
Now you're home alone
It's a piece of crap

I tried to plug in it
I tried to turn it on
When I got it home
It was a piece of crap

Got it from a friend
On him you can depend
I found out in the end
It was a piece of crap

I'm trying to save the trees
I saw it on TV
They cut the forest down
To build a piece of crap

I went back to the store
They gave me four more
The guy told me at the door
It's a piece of crap
User avatar
Mayfair
Master of Lit., Arts, & Architecture
Master of Lit., Arts, & Architecture
 
Posts: 3509
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:08 am
Location: Chicago!

Postby i got this one on Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:41 am

Mayfair wrote:Neil? Not crap, even if he writes songs like this in his old age...

'Piece Of Crap' by Neil Young

Tried to save the trees
Bought a platsic bag
The bottom fell out
It was a piece of crap

Saw it on the tube
Bought it on the phone
Now you're home alone
It's a piece of crap

I tried to plug in it
I tried to turn it on
When I got it home
It was a piece of crap

Got it from a friend
On him you can depend
I found out in the end
It was a piece of crap

I'm trying to save the trees
I saw it on TV
They cut the forest down
To build a piece of crap

I went back to the store
They gave me four more
The guy told me at the door
It's a piece of crap


That was better the first time than it was called The lorax. allthough he was probaly thinking Doctor Suess when he wrote that may be.
User avatar
i got this one
viceroy
viceroy
 
Posts: 44
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:22 am
Location: shoes

Next

Return to Crap / Not Crap

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider], Facundo, Google [Bot], JohnnyDoglands and 15 guests