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IS MTV Crap?

Postby Zap on Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:48 am

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Postby agent202 on Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:08 am

MTV and CRAP are the same think, i think we can remplace "CRAP" by "MTV"

THIS IS SOOO MTV!!!!
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Postby tommydski on Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:03 am

lewis black wrote:music goes in the ear not the eye.

if you see a video and it's exactly how you imagined the song would be visualised - kill yourself.
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Postby alex maiolo on Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:38 am

This is another poll that begs the question "did you need to ask?"

Of course it's CRAP. Anyone who actually likes music can't like MTV.
Plus, they don't play music, they play reality shows.

MTV2 started great. The first time I saw it, the Replacements' Bastards of Young was on. The original "anti-video."
They followed it with the Jayhawks, and then Golden Smog. I realized that without saying a word, they were doing a Minneapolis set.
So cool.
That lasted about a week.

Same with VH1 Classic. It started out great - lots of concets and live footage of bands I actually like. Seems like that good run's finishing up as well.

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Postby Marsupialized on Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:01 pm

Wanna hear how queer MTV is?
So I have a friend who is a pro wrestler, has been for years. He tells me that MTV is doing a wrestling show and he's agreed to wrestle on it.
Now, I say 'that's fucking gay I hope they are paying you well'
He says 'yeah it's fucking stupid but it's allright money'
I say 'I'll come to the taping of the show, I'll sit in the crowd when and where is it?'
He says 'get this dude, they told us that they don't want any ugly people in the audience they only want attractive people to be sitting in the crowd. You have to send a headshot and go to an audition just to sit in the crowd'
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Postby Zap on Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:09 pm

I think television is your average crap.
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Postby AAAAAAAARGH on Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:05 pm

Marsupialized wrote:He says 'get this dude, they told us that they don't want any ugly people in the audience they only want attractive people to be sitting in the crowd. You have to send a headshot and go to an audition just to sit in the crowd'


I think your wrestler friend was trying to give you a hint.
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Postby placeholder on Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:35 pm

Zap wrote:I think television is your average crap.


You think MTV is crap and you think television is crap in general?

That is unbelievably subversive and not at all obvious!
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Postby Ally In Exile on Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:48 pm

i think the music video itself is generally a very low-level art form. there are exceptions to the rule, of course, but by and large music videos not only fail to be artistically interesting, they also fail to entertain.

a good song is a complete entity. it doesn't need supplemental nonsense tacked on in order for it to be worthwhile or have sufficient meaning. generally the best music videos are the ones that don't just pile information on top of information. like Bresson said, when the sound is doing everything, the image should be doing almost nothing, and vice versa. there needs to be a delicate balance between the two elements. if a song is totally rocking out, the visual accompanyment should be excercising some restraint -- as opposed to assaulting the senses or rendering the music redundant by overstating the obvious, which is how most music videos function.

by my personal standards, most videos they play on mtv are unwatchable, especially these days. (i wont even bother to get into the quality of the actual music.) but the funny thing is, with the exception of stuff like wondershow zen (which seems pretty entertaining, based on the clips i've watched), most of mtv is dominated by crappy tv shows, most of which have little to nothing to do with actual music (though all of them manage to thoughtlessly incorporate it somehow).

so in the end MTV is just an endless orgy of hyper-mediated nonsense. its almost flippantly conservative in its conception of youth culture.

seriously, watching MTV is like sucking the satan's cock.

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Postby Marsupialized on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:18 pm

AAAAAAAARGH wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:He says 'get this dude, they told us that they don't want any ugly people in the audience they only want attractive people to be sitting in the crowd. You have to send a headshot and go to an audition just to sit in the crowd'


I think your wrestler friend was trying to give you a hint.


Indeed I do need to get my headshot updated
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Postby Wipe on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:39 pm

Yes.
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Postby garble on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:48 pm

Marsupialized wrote:Wanna hear how queer MTV is?
So I have a friend who is a pro wrestler, has been for years. He tells me that MTV is doing a wrestling show and he's agreed to wrestle on it.
Now, I say 'that's fucking gay I hope they are paying you well'
He says 'yeah it's fucking stupid but it's allright money'
I say 'I'll come to the taping of the show, I'll sit in the crowd when and where is it?'
He says 'get this dude, they told us that they don't want any ugly people in the audience they only want attractive people to be sitting in the crowd. You have to send a headshot and go to an audition just to sit in the crowd'


Also, MTV is not the only network that does this. Plenty of them do.
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Postby Marsupialized on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:49 pm

garble wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:Wanna hear how queer MTV is?
So I have a friend who is a pro wrestler, has been for years. He tells me that MTV is doing a wrestling show and he's agreed to wrestle on it.
Now, I say 'that's fucking gay I hope they are paying you well'
He says 'yeah it's fucking stupid but it's allright money'
I say 'I'll come to the taping of the show, I'll sit in the crowd when and where is it?'
He says 'get this dude, they told us that they don't want any ugly people in the audience they only want attractive people to be sitting in the crowd. You have to send a headshot and go to an audition just to sit in the crowd'


Also, MTV is not the only network that does this. Plenty of them do.


But a pro wrestling show?
A pro wrestling show filled with attractive people is like an indie rock show filled with straight guys, it just don't happen.
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Postby Gramsci on Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:20 pm

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Postby AAAAAAAARGH on Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:10 am

While the concept of the music video is crap, and mtv is crap, let's not forget some of the not crap offerings made avaliable in its past:

Beavis and Butthead
Daria
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Postby Antero on Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:37 am

Absolute crap, slight WF for occasionally telling stupid people to do leftist things.
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Postby Linus Van Pelt on Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:24 am

In the past year or two I have seen more of those commercials they run making fun of the claim that they don't play music videos than I have music videos. Now, you can have "Music Television" without exclusively playing videos. You can play music-related movies, you can play "Making the Band," etc. But what the fuck is My Sweet Sixteen, Next, Yo Momma, The Real World, Laguna Beach, Road Rules... ?!

I like music videos. Sorry if that makes me "uncool."
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Postby Antero on Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:36 pm

Linus Van Pelt wrote:I like music videos. Sorry if that makes me "uncool."
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Postby mr.arrison on Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:02 pm

MTV was cool in like 1982 when I was ten.

All I remember were weird/cool videos by Devo, XTC, Dire Straits, INXS, New Order, Gary Numan, OMD, Men at Work, Police, and more Devo.

It was low budget and spontaneous. During the first year, most of the videos were of new wave or post punk bands. I don't remember it turning to total crap until somewhere between MJ's Thriller and Madonna's first few videos.

Since then, and now it is ten pounds of CRAP in a five pound bag.
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Postby Bartok on Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:17 pm

when my parents first got cable TV I was 14 I watched MTV late at night and if it wasn't for MTV's 120 Minutes in 1994 I would never ever have heard of: The Jesus Lizard, Shudder To Think, Cranes, Girls Against Boys, and Helmet. (There are more but it would be pointless to list them)

I don't watch TV now mainly because where I live I can't recieve broadcasts, certainly can't afford cable and find it eats into the time I should be writing music or watching movies.

And fuck yeah to the headshots, who wants to see ugly people on TV? I can see that looking out my bedroom window.
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