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Person/Band: Nine Inch Nails

Postby Into the Void on Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:04 pm

Sir Reznor and company.
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Postby mattw on Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:21 pm

There were moments off of 'The Downward Spiral' that I really liked ('A Warm Place' 'March of the Pigs' 'Hurt' ) but overall, Reznor's really got his head up his own ass and has created a lot of crap. I thought _The Fragile_ was a turd solidified. That's when I realized that NIN was basically just music for your "I hate the world" phase back in seventh/eight grade. You get over it, move on. I really feel bad for someone in their 30's who thinks that NIN is cool.
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Postby placeholder on Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:38 pm

CRAP. Trite music for children/cock rock with synths, and nowhere near as "interesting" as his fawning admirers would have you believe. I certainly enjoyed his records up until I was about 15 years old, but it wore thin quickly, even when I was at an impressionable age and more likely to fall for the brand of angsty bullshit he peddles. For several years after being completely sick of his records, I didn't sell them just in case I ever wanted to listen to them again for some reason (nostalgia, probably). I've since sold them, after realizing this would never happen. A couple of neat noises on a couple of mediocre, unintentionally hilarious albums do not constitute worthwhile listening. Plus, he has butchered every song he's covered, and these are often great songs. WTF?

I went to a Bowie show in St. Louis in 1995, for which Prick (NOT CRAP) were the openers, and NIN were the co-headliners. I was appalled (though not surprised) by the huge percentage of jackasses in the sizable crowd left after NIN played. Fine by me. Bowie (who I was actually there to see) played a great set filled with a bunch of Low, "Heroes", Lodger, Scary Monsters, and (unfortunately) Outside stuff. I am still a Bowie fan.

Tolerable things about Nine Inch Nails:

(1) comedic value
(2) inexplicable association with Coil and Foetus, who were/are great
(3) that drum pattern in "March of the Pigs"
(4) good choice in songs cover songs (negated by terrible execution of same)
(5) vanity label released/distributed good records (Plug, Autechre, Plaid, Prick, etc)
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:17 pm

two things i'll give him credit for.

1) making "industrial music" into a mainstream thing with Pretty Hate Machine).

2) making "drum n bass" into a mainstream thing with the song/video for Perfect Drug (and yeah dipshit i know he didn't even come close to inventing it).

in general, meh. i liked some of the songs on pretty hate machine a lot back then, and some i still do. i liked some of the songs on broken a little back then and probably still do though i dunno cause it's been a long time. i thought Suck was one of the better songs on the first Pigface album. but other than these things, i dunno, meh. i don't like electronic music in general, so...
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Postby Linus Van Pelt on Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:13 pm

Main pro: Pretty Hate Machine.
Main con: introducing the world to Marilyn Manson.

Those are both pretty big for me. Still, that pro beats that con, and I think his lesser pros beat his lesser cons, so I say Not Crap.

Do you remember these:

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Postby placeholder on Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:23 pm

Linus Van Pelt wrote:Image


These dinosaur! She is the Reznor of SUPER MARIO WORLD, greatest of all game of Mario! So, beautiful, these game! I am still to play it sometimes, and still to find and clear all 96 level! SALUT, LINUS VAN PELT!
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:16 pm

i don't wanna take this thread too far off-topic, but placeholder, have you ever seen the Super Mario 2 "time attack" video that's out there? it's basically a kid winning the game as quickly as is humanly possible. in fact, it's so perfectly executed that i question whether or not it's really a human doing it...
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Postby geiginni on Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:25 pm

Speaking of all things Super Mario...

Is anyone familiar with the Santa Cruz band "Estradasphere"?

They used to do all the various musical excerpts from the Mario games. They had the Theme, Underwater, Underworld, etc....
All arranged and performed flawlessly.

http://www.archive.org/download/estra2003-11-19-buffalo.flac16/estra2003-11-19d2t04_64kb.mp3

http://www.archive.org/download/estra2004-10-02.shnf/estra2004-10-02d1t02_64kb.mp3

http://www.archive.org/download/estra2004-10-02.shnf/estra2004-10-02d1t03_64kb.mp3
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Postby placeholder on Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:35 pm

toomanyhelicopters wrote:i don't wanna take this thread too far off-topic, but placeholder, have you ever seen the Super Mario 2 "time attack" video that's out there? it's basically a kid winning the game as quickly as is humanly possible. in fact, it's so perfectly executed that i question whether or not it's really a human doing it...


Whoa! I haven't seen this, but would like to. I HAVE seen video of a "perfect" game of Gradius V played by this Japanese guy, which is a total mindblow.

TMH, is the video the U.S. Super Mario 2? Because the Japanese SMB2 is a totally different game (using the SMB1 engine) and is unbelievably difficult. I'd like to see a time attack video of that. Either way, it sounds impressive to me.
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:38 pm

here ya go. i mean Super Mario 3, not 2. he wins it in 11 minutes. enjoy the madness...

http://keithdevens.com/weblog/archive/2 ... oBrothers3
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Postby placeholder on Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:46 pm

toomanyhelicopters wrote:here ya go. i mean Super Mario 3, not 2. he wins it in 11 minutes. enjoy the madness...

http://keithdevens.com/weblog/archive/2 ... oBrothers3


I have to watch this when I get home. This negates my question about SMB2 US/SMB2 JP. Thanks for the link!
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Postby Linus Van Pelt on Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:05 pm

toomanyhelicopters wrote:here ya go. i mean Super Mario 3, not 2. he wins it in 11 minutes. enjoy the madness...

http://keithdevens.com/weblog/archive/2 ... oBrothers3


The first time I saw this, I was transfixed. My fiancee did not understand. I told her, "It's like porn for nerds." That didn't really help.
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Postby kerble on Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:04 pm

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Postby same on Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:29 pm

we had a reznor brand heater in the garage when i was in highschool. it was about 1,000,000 times better to listen to than any nine inch nails record.
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Postby mattw on Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:31 pm

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This is my favorite post of yours. What could it mean? So mysterious.
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Postby kerble on Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:10 pm

mattw wrote:
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This is my favorite post of yours. What could it mean? So mysterious.



sorry:
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Postby Christopher_Dragon on Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:59 pm

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That looks more like Professor Snape from Harry Potter than Reznor.
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Postby hench on Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:04 pm

lyrics are crap. tho i would have waffled a bit about them in highschool.

music minus lyrics, not crap. production thereof, not crap.

fuck it, i'm a fan. not crap.
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Postby John W. on Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:25 pm

He's not the real thing. Crap.
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Postby spacebar on Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:09 pm

:WF: 9

the downward spiral: ridiculously intricate sound design. Great concept album at the time (I was 14), so not crap.

live tour now: hand clapping above the head and yelling "let's go!" while singing hits songs about hate and gloom: total crap.

not crap for nostalgic purposes (barely).
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