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Either/Or: Public Image Ltd. or Gang Of Four.

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Either/Or: Public Image Ltd. or Gang Of Four.

Postby horsewhip on Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:27 pm

Man, I don't think I can even decide...
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Postby placeholder on Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:27 pm

I cannot vote on this. My leaning is to PIL, for Metal Box and Flowers of Romance, which are two of the best fucking things I've ever heard. The first album is very good and the Peel sessions are fucking tremendous as well. BUT they certainly went to crap pretty quickly.

Umm...Entertainment! and Solid Gold are also two of the best things I've ever heard. Songs of the Free is pretty good, the Peel sessions are rival the album versions, and the less said about Hard the better.

Damnit, I just cannot vote on this one. These are two of my favorite bands. For what it's worth, I'd probably rate the Pop Group a little higher than both of them. Probably.
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Postby robert thefamilyghost on Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:50 pm

it's really really really easy for me...just because i like PIL so goddamned fucking much...i mean, i like Gang of Four a lot (by coincidence i'm wearing a Gang of Four shirt this very moment) but their greatness is a bit more narrow, at least in my eyes...and PIL is just mind-blowingly great...
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Postby Brett Eugene Ralph on Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:58 pm

As much as I like PiL's debut, a lot of their stuff gives me migraine.

So I vote Gang of Four. Marxism never seemed so sexy, before or since.
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Postby Angry_Dragon on Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:48 am

PIL
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Postby Redline on Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:49 am

PIL. C'mon....
I love GOF but PIL wins this cage match.
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Postby segerandpriest on Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:06 am

jesus fucking christ. i feel like i am being forced to choose between my parents.

PIL.
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Postby horsewhip on Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:34 am

segerandpriest wrote:jesus fucking christ. i feel like i am being forced to choose between my parents.

PIL.


That was my intention. Bwa ha ha! I have thought it over, and have decided that PiL wins by an eyelash as they have a slightly better crap to not crap ratio, and "Second Edition" is easily as great (if much, much less accessible) as "Entertainment!" and lasts 20 minutes longer.
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Postby trilonaut on Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:20 pm

i didn't vote because i've only heard about one song apiece, but from what i heard, gang of four's my pick.
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Postby MorphineCharley on Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:44 pm

Gang of Four!
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Postby the Classical on Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:57 pm

Both bands made hugely great albums early and then took into creative nose-dives of epic preportions. PiL possibly being worse, if only because I more familiar w/ it, tho those later Go4 records are fucking horrible(okay now that I think about I "like" some of that later PiL crap strictly as crap)

Go4 albums are still really great to this day, but I am going w/ PiL...Metal Box pretty much trumps both the horrible later work and the best work of Go4

plus Flowers of Romance and First Issue are great, underrated, etc, of course so is Solid Gold

I guess what it comes down to is PiL appeals to me on a greater level then Go4

so...PiL
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Postby robert thefamilyghost on Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:14 pm

trilonaut wrote:i didn't vote because i've only heard about one song apiece, but from what i heard, gang of four's my pick.


chances are the PIL you heard "doesn't count"...for the a while i refused to believe it when i heard "their early stuff is good" dismissing it as the ol' cliché...but then i heard Metal Box and was sufficiently blown away beyond recognition...
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Postby placeholder on Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:58 pm

After some deliberation, PIL gets my vote.
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Postby skpprn on Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:51 am

Since P.I.L is one of my all-time favorite bands, this is pretty easy. Even when P.I.L. was bad they were good.
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Postby TheMilford on Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:54 am

Gang of Four.

Solid Gold is a masterpiece.

PIL... nothing jumps out at me quite the same way GO4 did.
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Postby dave76 on Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:41 pm

That is a damn tough question to answer.

PIL - the first four albums (ending with The Flowers of Romance, don't forget the live Paris in the Spring!) are absolutely brilliant.

GOF - They could do no wrong up to and including Solid Gold.

Dammit! I can't decide.
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Postby Angry_Dragon on Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:48 pm

dave76 wrote:That is a damn tough question to answer.

PIL - the first four albums (ending with The Flowers of Romance, don't forget the live Paris in the Spring!) are absolutely brilliant.

GOF - They could do no wrong up to and including Solid Gold.

Dammit! I can't decide.


Based upon what you're saying, it's 4 good albums versus 2 good albums. This wouldn't be hard to decide if you're just going on how many good albums each band has.
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Postby YO31 on Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:39 am

This is harder than my BSc. Solid Gold and Metal Box are two of my all time favorites.

I'll go for PIL though on the basis that their good:bad album ratio is higher and they aren't charging £22.50 a ticket (thats $40 US folks !) for reunion gig at the worst venue in Leeds.

So much for the Marxism.
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Postby dave76 on Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:53 pm

Angry_Dragon wrote:
dave76 wrote:That is a damn tough question to answer.

PIL - the first four albums (ending with The Flowers of Romance, don't forget the live Paris in the Spring!) are absolutely brilliant.

GOF - They could do no wrong up to and including Solid Gold.

Dammit! I can't decide.


Based upon what you're saying, it's 4 good albums versus 2 good albums. This wouldn't be hard to decide if you're just going on how many good albums each band has.


I didn't realize that quanity was the deciding factor.

The point I was trying to make was that during those periods, they were both awesome. Both also failed to consistently impress on later efforts.

I still cannot decide.
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Postby rashiedgarrison on Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:04 pm

Cmon... PIL for Metal Box alone (and the first album). All who vote Gang of Four are obviously Rapture fans...
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