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Band: Metallica

Postby Dylan on Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:12 am

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Postby lostboy on Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:27 am

Crap. I finally had to register just to answer this question.
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Postby Dylan on Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:47 am

And Justice For All was good, but not enough to overcome the sheer weight of shit they have heaped upon us all.
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Postby Justin Foley on Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:52 pm

God, this is a really, really tough one. Master of Puppets & And Justice for All are both great records. Even the stuff that they did before that was huge metal stuff.

But, God, what's happened since is so, so bad. The band's musical politics, the terrible albums. They're about the worst band in music now, all things considered. That S&M record? Jesus, I didn't have to hear it to know it was bad.

May my ancestors forgive me, but I'm going to go with Not Crap for two reasons.

1. Everyone's given them a Crap rating. I'll defend them on their early merits, although I'll feel like Lynn Stewart for doing so (and probably be treated the same).

2. They did that goofy MTV contest where the winner got to hang out Metallica for the day. That provided some hilariously funny stuff. Them playing basketball with the winner, and the winner's friend who did a dead on drum solo from Ride the Lightning.

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Postby Miko on Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:35 pm

They should have retired after that shitty Load album. Load was like a load of bull semen. Leaves a bad taste in your mouth and hard to swallow. My dad loves the stuff though. Bull semen, he's impartial when it comes to Metallica.
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Their music is better than it sounds

Postby O H Lee on Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:20 pm

I've always respected Metallica for the way they made it. However, their music is better than it sounds. Overwrought, self-indulgent, all the cliched metal criticism except they played a little faster than those before them.
On the positive, they made Misfits records easier to obtain.

It doesn't help that they've been major label suck asses for the last 10 years.
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Postby capnreverb on Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:17 pm

You know Cliff must have rolled over in his grave when he saw all those stupid (must have been 60-80 total each) photos of themselves in Load and Re-load. Make-up? Gangsta rap facial expressions? Perfect hair and clothes? What a load of crap.
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Postby same on Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:53 pm

i'm going to have to go with the glass is half full perspective on this one. three songs: anesthesia (pulling teeth), disposable heros, damage inc.

that shit is heavy. they have other good stuff too off of those first three. ...and justice for all was the biginning of the end. i just ignore everything after that.

not crap.
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Postby revrantMeat on Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:49 am

crap crap

lars ulrich is hideously idiotic.
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Postby connor on Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:54 am

Only now after having puked for a few hours can I admit to you fine people that I think Metallica put out some good music.

As for an actual judgement, I don't think I'm quite ready for that.

Oh fuck it.

Lars, you are a thoroughly uninteresting drummer.

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Postby Plantweed on Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:17 am

NC, for the first 3 or 4 albums; Justice is great, if a bit overloaded with progisms, and having ZERO bass guitar. I was 15 when their first album came out, the perfect age. I can't express how heavy and revolutionary they were.
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Postby B_M_L on Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:00 am

CRAP.

The first 4 albums are great. But that just makes them even CRAPer. How could they make an album like Mater of Puppets or Justice then go on to make all that pooh after?! It’s appalling & unforgivable... they are quite possibly the worst band on the planet.

It’s not even that they sold out so badly – I don’t care that much... they probably deserved some cash. But cowboy hats & right wing politics????!!

I remember when that Black Album bollocks came out. I was with a group of people, all massive Metallica fans, we planned a party, bought the album on the release day, bought in a load of beers in preparation.... put the album on.... and within minutes the sense of disappointment was overwhelming. But how could they write Disposable Heros then go on to write that “don’t tread on me” nonsense? How did they turn so quickly into gun toting red necks? How could they make an album with a guy called Bob Rock?

And I haven’t even mentioned Kirk having the gayest hair cut in music.
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What the hell happened?

Postby ReubenRemus on Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:50 am

Metallica in the '80s: not crap.

Metallica in the '90s and beyond: crap.

Any fan who has an album from both periods knows what I am talking about. Unless you actually believe that St. Anger is better than Kill 'Em All, for example.....
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Postby abcgroupdocumentation on Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:32 am

Kill'em All through And Justice for All...not a single skip track on any of those records.

Metallica's Black LP is the beginning of the end. Anything after that is drivel.
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Postby tmidgett on Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:43 am

Not crap.

Kill 'Em All.

Ride the Lightning.

Master of Puppets.

Parts of the Black Album.

Live show in Spokane, WA (...And Justice for All tour)

James Hetfield's guitar playing in general.

Add in the tremendous comedic contributions of:

A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica

and

Some Kind of Monster

AND

St. Anger

And it's a very easy 'not crap' from me.
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Postby Pure L on Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:46 am

Metallica's instrumentals are down-right moving.

i'll admit it.

not crap with big waffles.
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Postby Ty Webb on Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:51 am

First 4 albums are outstanding and played a huge role in my metal development (and I mean huge; look at my crotch).


But since then...holy shit. I can't think of another band that has had this kind of total collapse (while selling more records than ever) in artistic and aesthetic sensibilities. Lars is a douche. Hetfield...Hetfield's just pathetic. And Kirk is a cipher.

But Master of Puppets...damn, dude. What a metal album. Ferocious, singular, and unabashed.

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Postby Surfrider on Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:07 pm

tmidgett wrote:Not crap.

Kill 'Em All.

Ride the Lightning.

Master of Puppets.

Parts of the Black Album.

Live show in Spokane, WA (...And Justice for All tour)

James Hetfield's guitar playing in general.

Add in the tremendous comedic contributions of:

A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica

and

Some Kind of Monster

AND

St. Anger

And it's a very easy 'not crap' from me.



Exactly what tmidgett says except i wasn't at that gig. I'll throw in ORION for good measure. How good is that!?
Oh and ALL of the ...And Justice For All album. Flawlessly played, badly recorded, but still great.
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Postby tmidgett on Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:42 pm

Surfrider wrote:Exactly what tmidgett says except i wasn't at that gig. I'll throw in ORION for good measure. How good is that!?
Oh and ALL of the ...And Justice For All album. Flawlessly played, badly recorded, but still great.


The best shit on AJFA is pretty great. I guess the sound doesn't get in the way any more than it does on the Black Album. And a lot less than on St. Anger.

I used to love Metallica. They were the only true metal band besides Motorhead and maybe Voivod that I really liked. Those old records hold up real well, I think.
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Postby Champion Rabbit on Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:08 pm

MrFood wrote:Weirdly, I had just been looking at this before coming upon this thread.

What a tool.


It's funny seeing that video having (as a teenager) spent many happy(?) bedroom hours trying to play those songs. He actually can't play their songs any better than a standard, spotty 16 year-old. When you listen to the guitar parts played on their own, you really start to appreciate how important the production on those records must have been...unless maybe Hetfield really was a far better player.

Anyway, NOT CRAP for the first 3 records, after that CRAP.
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