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Band: Pink Floyd

Postby jupiter on Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:21 pm

This one has potential...

(I can't wait for rank.)
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Postby ngjack on Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:04 am

should this be limited to the bloated post-syd barrett floyd? or is this all-encompassing?
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Postby Dylan on Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:32 am

If it's called 'Pink Floyd', you have to count it. I say CRAP when it's all said and done.
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Postby andteater on Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:26 pm

not crap.

even though a lot of their stuff blows, the whole Dark Side/Wizard of Oz deal won me over...

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Postby evets9 on Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:41 pm

total crap with one exception... Syd. after that, it's all shite.
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Postby O H Lee on Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:05 pm

The Pink Floyd were for their time/and still are a mind melt. Syd pushed it as far he could & never came back. Anything after that is crap and we have that creep Roger Waters to thank.
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Postby tmidgett on Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:30 pm

The Pink Floyd were for their time/and still are a mind melt. Syd pushed it as far he could & never came back. Anything after that is crap and we have that creep Roger Waters to thank.

total crap with one exception... Syd. after that, it's all shite.


this is not playing crap/not crap

you cannot have exceptions

we have to be able to tell DEFINITIVELY if you think the artiste at hand is crap or not crap

please read the 'how to play' part in the crap/not crap forum thing

it's very important to stake a claim rather than lay your stake halfheartedly on the ground

example:

pink floyd is crap psychedelia for beer drinkers. the first couple albums, ok as they are, are swamped out by opaque bilge. roughly as good as the grateful dead, who were at least able to handle their drugs for the most part.

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Postby Mr. Chimp on Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:11 pm

syd floyd - not total crap
syd solo - total crap
roger - mostly crap
gilmour guitar - not crap
rick wright - crap
nick mason - mostly not crap
ummagumma -not crap
meddle - mostly not crap
animals - not crap
DSOTM - crap
DSOTM Vs. The Wizard of Oz - not crap
DSOTM on charts for 900+ weeks or so - not crap, not even to sneeze at
the wall movie - not crap
the wall album (boring without visuals) - crap
post wall pink floyd - total crap.
post waters pink floyd - tremendous crap
post floyd roger waters - asleep with head in a bucket of crap
pink floyd laser lightshows - crap

12 uses of Crap, including anything but the phrase "not crap"

vs.

6 true Not Crap

Pink Floyd = Crapadelic
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Postby whore house on Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:33 am

piper at the gates of dawn - (fucking gay beatles rip off/psychedelica gay)
a saucerful of secrets - (awesome first stab in the dark at long pieces of work)
more - (boring, going back to short poppy sound)
umma gumma - (boring long shit)
atom heart mother - (alright)
meddle - (fucking great, somehow they pull off poppy and innovative at the same time)
obscured by clouds - (terrible)
dark side - (great, this is the happiest floyd will sound for the rest of their career)
wish you were here - (amazing, bookended by one amazing song)
animals - (most experimental floyd effects wise)
the wall - (bloated but fucking great)
the final cut - (depressing but fucking great)
everything after - (fucking shit, roger waters quit and floyd lost their direction)

overall the good works outshine the bad
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Postby Angry_Dragon on Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:30 am

Dylan wrote:If it's called 'Pink Floyd', you have to count it. I say CRAP when it's all said and done.


Maybe today's hangover isn't as bad because I;m agreeing with Dylan. or maybe it's because I'm listening to Blood On The Tracks.
Better yet, eat the placenta!!!
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Postby gmilner on Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:10 pm

I've never ever ever ever ever understood the appeal of this band. To me, the music sounds dull, anti-human, arrogant, and completely devoid of any of the things I look for in music (rhythm, noise, interesting lyrics, "swing," humor, etc.) Although the early stuff sounds considerably better to me, it is completely overwhelmed by the inchoate crappiness of the later stuff.

Also, having a children's choir sing about not needing an education was asinine and irresponsible (I could definitely overlook the latter were it not for the former).

Oh yeah, and I trace the whole "agony of stardom" bullshit pose now adopted by so many bands back to that shitty Pink Floyd movie.

Minor waffle to Roger Waters for calling an album "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking."
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Postby gratified on Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:54 am

whore house wrote:piper at the gates of dawn - (fucking gay beatles rip off/psychedelica gay)


please stop posting

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Postby Ike on Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:50 am

total asspus.

Crap

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Postby Seaside Lounge on Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:48 pm

The Floyd are not doing so well here, are they.

The secret to Pink Floyd, for me, is that it is music to listen to. You put it on and really listen to it; to the keyboards and the guitars and the drums and the bass playing - you listen to the sounds of all of those instruments and the sounds are good. And then there is singing and it is also good for listening. So Pink Floyd, you are NOT CRAP.

The recently re-released Live at Pompei DVD shows what a mighty force the Floyd was in their day. I fail to see anything crap about it, except all the dumb CGI shit that was added to the director's cut.
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Postby congleton on Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:58 pm

its a losing battle i fight with many of my friends but this band will never ever be crap to me. of corse everything post waters is fucking dreadful. but still to this day i get uncontrollably excited when i hear the opening cords of dark side of the moon.
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:23 am

i'm talkin crazy here, but i say a definite NOT CRAP for pink floyd. it's my opinion that pink floyd ended with syd. the band kept the name, but it sure as hell wasn't pink floyd. HE was pink floyd. so NOT CRAP. P! I! P-E-R! PIPER! PIPER!
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Postby skpprn on Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:07 am

I don't know about all this. i am definitely a huge Syd fan. but that does not mean that i can not see what is good with the rest. I must say that i think animals and The Wall are amazing albums. I think Wish You Were Here is really good and Dark Side is okay (not a favourite of mine). But then we also have the brilliant Saucerful of Secrets and Meddle. I would say a definite NOT CRAP and that is including that I admit several really shitty albums.

But hey, people look beyond Syd, that is the same as saying that Back In Black is crap because it is Brian Johnson, or that Motorheads Overkill, Ace Of Spades, Bomber is crap because Lemmy is the only original member on those albums, maybe not the wolds best examples. but still you get my point.
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:34 am

But hey, people look beyond Syd, that is the same as saying that Back In Black is crap because it is Brian Johnson, or that Motorheads Overkill, Ace Of Spades, Bomber is crap because Lemmy is the only original member on those albums, maybe not the wolds best examples. but still you get my point.


not the best examples, true. because while i think bon scott was hugely important to ACDC for his vocals, i think the rest of the band was no less important. i mean, angus? right? and lemmy in motorhead, he was pretty key, himself. and the difference with floyd is that, again just my opinion here, piper was awesome, but 90-something percent of that was syd. his vocals and guitar. the rest of the guys were important as a supporting cast, and did well. but it was really all about him. even take into consideration the fact that after he became unusable to them, they still used stuff he had written, they wrote albums *about him*, and later on they had to fight about whose band it really was. because it was all about Syd.

ps - bon scott wasn't the original singer of ACDC, neither. i mean he's clearly important to their initial success. but he replaced their original singer. so, y'know...
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Postby skpprn on Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:53 am

I hear you, and you definitely have a good point. What I am trying to say is that I think that they were a great band even without him and that they all turned in to very important figures for what Pink Floyd was. But maybe they should have, just like Joy Division/New Order, become a "new" band. Since I actually do not see any resemblence between Syd-era and post Syd-era, it is basically two different bands, who I think both are great. So maybe the problem is just bigger than that. I do not know, english is not my first language so maybe I make no sense. But still, I think Pink Floyd is a great band with or without Syd. I know they have created a lot of shit, but all in all a great band.
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:08 am

everything you said makes perfect sense, to me anyways. your joy division example is exactly what i meant, and that's a perfect example. i actually like post-syd floyd as well. but i just don't think it's right to call it pink floyd.

and your english is quite good, by the way.

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