tv show: Breaking Bad

[Major]

The only tense moments left seem to be with Hank, and Jesse, and more Threes Company-like misunderstandings.

Ummm...Hank?

Uh, yeah. I find it hard to believe that Hank won't eventually find out (or come close to finding out) that Walter is involved.

I love this fucking show, did I say that?

[krs]

The only tense moments left seem to be with Hank, and Jesse, and more Threes Company-like misunderstandings.

Ummm...Hank?

Uh, yeah. I find it hard to believe that Hank won't eventually find out (or come close to finding out) that Walter is involved.

I love this fucking show, did I say that?

I was agreeing, but questioning why that wouldn't be enough intensity for greg to carry a good portion of the season. Hank finding Walter out has the possibility of far worse consequences than any other adversary he has yet faced.

[syntaxfree07]

The only tense moments left seem to be with Hank, and Jesse, and more Threes Company-like misunderstandings.

Ummm...Hank?

Uh, yeah. I find it hard to believe that Hank won't eventually find out (or come close to finding out) that Walter is involved.

I love this fucking show, did I say that?

I was agreeing, but questioning why that wouldn't be enough intensity for greg to carry a good portion of the season. Hank finding Walter out has the possibility of far worse consequences than any other adversary he has yet faced.

I don't agree with this. I think Hank will find out and it will either shatter him or he will start running interference for Walt. Either way-- He won't give Walt to the authorities. Nothing about him (even before his falling out with the DEA) suggests that he would give up his brother-in-law and break up his sister's family and leave her with nothing. Walt is rightly afraid of Hank finding out but he's been an asset to Walt unknowingly this far and I think they will actively collude in the last season.

[syntaxfree07]

[quote="MWilke"]But the point remains, the most powerful man in the cartel couldn't kill Gus due to who Gus was connected to in Chile. /quote]

Walt won't have to deal with anyone trying to avenge Gus, though. No one from down south would connect Walt to Salamanca.

[MWilke]

Walt won't have to deal with anyone trying to avenge Gus, though.

I would put money on your wrongness.

[syntaxfree07]

Walt won't have to deal with anyone trying to avenge Gus, though.

I would put money on your wrongness.

Maybe some higher-ups from los pollos hermanos parent company.

[greg]

Walt won't have to deal with anyone trying to avenge Gus, though.

I would put money on your wrongness.

Maybe some higher-ups from los pollos hermanos parent company.

That would be a bummer theme-repeat. I would hope there would be a better story curve than kill, avenge, kill, avenge, kill, avenge, kill, avenge... and, you think that guy was bad? wait until his brothers show up. They're, like, twice as evil. -killed, then, oh you thought they were bad? wait until their nephews here about this, they were kicked out of Al Qaeda for being too evil...
It better be something like, Hank learns to drive again, has a heart attack when showing the new car off to the Whites, runs over the baby, and puts Walter in a Coma. Skyler has an affair with Jesse after a few episodes of him working at the car wash. They conspire to kill Walter Jr. and Marie (who is now living with them), then flee to Gaza where they will join Hamas. Then, Walt wakes up in the janitor's closet. Realizing he is late for his class, he curses, then runs off to it, chest full of heathy lungs and foggy in the head. With each step he forgets a detail of this crazy dream he had. When he finally gets a minute between classes he jots down what he can remember. He gets as far as, "I started making meth, and was really good at it... I killed a dude with my bare hands... Jesse, the annoying kid from a few years ago..."
He then gets distracted, and leaves the note on his desk. End of show.

[Major]

It better be something like, Hank learns to drive again, has a heart attack when showing the new car off to the Whites, runs over the baby, and puts Walter in a Coma. Skyler has an affair with Jesse after a few episodes of him working at the car wash. They conspire to kill Walter Jr. and Marie (who is now living with them), then flee to Gaza where they will join Hamas. Then, Walt wakes up in the janitor's closet. Realizing he is late for his class, he curses, then runs off to it, chest full of heathy lungs and foggy in the head. With each step he forgets a detail of this crazy dream he had. When he finally gets a minute between classes he jots down what he can remember. He gets as far as, "I started making meth, and was really good at it... I killed a dude with my bare hands... Jesse, the annoying kid from a few years ago..."
He then gets distracted, and leaves the note on his desk. End of show.

Brilliant.

[MWilke]

Walt won't have to deal with anyone trying to avenge Gus, though.

I would put money on your wrongness.

Maybe some higher-ups from los pollos hermanos parent company.

Or...ya know...Mike. He's now out of a really good job and Walt's to blame.

[Dr. Geek]

Finished season four over the weekend. Love how the show takes its time setting up all these pieces and then, in one fell swoop, knocks them all down.

A common theme running through the show as it pertains to Walt is his taking control of his life facing certain death, be it from cancer or the various villains involved in the meth trade. With that in mind, a fitting conclusion to Walt's saga would be suicide. Imagine the final scene being a terse face-off with Hank, who has obviously figured out the Heisenberg riddle. Tears run down their cheeks, Hank heartbroken for his family and having to be put in his current position; Walt's guilt resurfacing, having to face the reality of this being the end. But Walt's pride and his desire to control his life will prevent him from surrendering to Hank. Coupled with the return of the cancer and leaving his future to the courts and the state, Walt will do what any desperate man does when his life spirals out of control in a final attempt at regaining control: suicide.

[syntaxfree07]

Walt won't have to deal with anyone trying to avenge Gus, though.

I would put money on your wrongness.

Maybe some higher-ups from los pollos hermanos parent company.

Or...ya know...Mike. He's now out of a really good job and Walt's to blame.

Mike probably doesn't care about Gus after being ignored by the doctors after the killing of Don Eladio. He was also expressing reservations before when Jesse was talking about how transparently expendable all of Gus's goons were. I also think it is way out of character for him to try to kill Walt.

[MWilke]

It's like we're watching a completely different show.

1. He wasn't ignored by the doctors. They just prioritized Gus. Also, Gus was funding his recovery.

2. He also expressed some doubt when Walt talked to him, and then kicked Walt's ass for even bringing it up.

3. Out of character? You know we're talking about Mike, right? There is no business or structure now that Gus is gone and the lab's blown up. He could kill anyone at anytime and make it look like an accident.

Vince Gilligan himself said that Mike isn't going to be happy about what he comes back to. It's funny. I thought that comment was almost so obvious it didn't even need to be said. Apparently it's going to need an explanation too.

[MWilke]

DP

[trilonaut]

SPOILERS

so because it's streaming on netflix and y'all raved about this show, i started watching it in rapid succession. i liked the first season a lot -- my one little peeve being that i thought the "cleaning up the guts" scene (and the murders involved) was just too nasty for our two protagonists to possibly want to stick to this business.

the second season, at first I was on board -- i loved the episode with tuco's uncle ringing that bell -- but after slogging through a zillion episodes of walt being a lying asshole to his family, it got to a point where i realized that he was totally unlikable (around the time he was giving his son tequila 'til he puked). i mean if the show is about how this guy is going from good to evil gradually over 5 seasons, dude is already evil before the end of season 2, how much more evil is he going to get? i don't really care to know. when he let jesse's blackmailing girlfriend die, i was like "oh come on" (he could've saved her and been like "hi i saved your life, so, don't blackmail me" -- though i understand that from a pure self-interest standpoint that's not as completely effective) and then when they showed her dad driving to her place i was just like, "alright, fuck this show, i'm not watching this guy find her dead" (full disclosure: i have a daughter) so i decided to just abandon the show and give it away for myself on wikipedia and then i was glad i did when i read that the next thing that happens is dude's grieving causes mid-air collision raining dead people on albuquerque?!? i mean what the fuck, that's just an absurd level of audience abuse. i understand an argument that could be made for it but this is just cartoonishly nasty and mean-spirited.

[crustandcrumb]

Hank learns to drive again, has a heart attack when showing the new car off to the Whites, runs over the baby, and puts Walter in a Coma. Skyler has an affair with Jesse after a few episodes of him working at the car wash. They conspire to kill Walter Jr. and Marie (who is now living with them), then flee to Gaza where they will join Hamas. Then, Walt wakes up in the janitor's closet. Realizing he is late for his class, he curses, then runs off to it, chest full of heathy lungs and foggy in the head. With each step he forgets a detail of this crazy dream he had. When he finally gets a minute between classes he jots down what he can remember. He gets as far as, "I started making meth, and was really good at it... I killed a dude with my bare hands... Jesse, the annoying kid from a few years ago..."
He then gets distracted, and leaves the note on his desk. End of show.

I bet the actual conclusion won't be nearly as cool as this.

[cmay]

SPOILERS

so because it's streaming on netflix and y'all raved about this show, i started watching it in rapid succession. i liked the first season a lot -- my one little peeve being that i thought the "cleaning up the guts" scene (and the murders involved) was just too nasty for our two protagonists to possibly want to stick to this business.

the second season, at first I was on board -- i loved the episode with tuco's uncle ringing that bell -- but after slogging through a zillion episodes of walt being a lying asshole to his family, it got to a point where i realized that he was totally unlikable (around the time he was giving his son tequila 'til he puked). i mean if the show is about how this guy is going from good to evil gradually over 5 seasons, dude is already evil before the end of season 2, how much more evil is he going to get? i don't really care to know. when he let jesse's blackmailing girlfriend die, i was like "oh come on" (he could've saved her and been like "hi i saved your life, so, don't blackmail me" -- though i understand that from a pure self-interest standpoint that's not as completely effective) and then when they showed her dad driving to her place i was just like, "alright, fuck this show, i'm not watching this guy find her dead" (full disclosure: i have a daughter) so i decided to just abandon the show and give it away for myself on wikipedia and then i was glad i did when i read that the next thing that happens is dude's grieving causes mid-air collision raining dead people on albuquerque?!? i mean what the fuck, that's just an absurd level of audience abuse. i understand an argument that could be made for it but this is just cartoonishly nasty and mean-spirited.

Just so ya know, I stopped at exactly the same point when the show first came out. Read a bunch of online slobbering over the show and came back to it. Totally glad I did. I had the same annoyances as you did with the 2nd season, but the show goes way beyond him just being more and more of an ass as it progresses.

[krs]

If you are looking something joyous and uplifting, this show is probably not going to be for you. No complaining. You have 95% of everything else on television to watch.

[etch]

I've had a similar experience to Trilonaut when viewing this show. I don't usually have an issue with dark themes or whatever but there is something about this show that makes it unwatchable for me personally. It's very well written and acted and all that so I have no complaints with the quality of the program I just find it uncomfortable to view.

Dexter has a lot of violence but it's campy and cartoonish, so it doesn't stay with me. This show actually made me depressed. All of the killing and meth making was too big of a bum out. Also, my own personal fears of ending up destitute and having to work two jobs and still being broke were manifest by watching this show.

Definitely not crap but not for me.

[stewie]

Just finished watching it, and hol-eeee shit was it good.

I mean, better than Twin Peaks Season 1 good. And yes, better than The Wire.

Saul - genius.
Gus - chilling.
Walt - expertly acted.
Hank - hilarious.
Jesse - incredible.
Badger - the fucking funniest.
Cinematography - the greatest.

I could go on, but we all likely agree. This was a fucking outstanding piece of entertainment, and if you don't think so you are wrong.





....BITCH.

[cerebralheadtrip]

Never gets old. God damnit, this show needs to come back pronto.