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'70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

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Best guitar tone:

Mick Ronson
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50%
Brian May
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37%
Alex Chilton
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Total votes : 30

Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby placeholder on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:14 am

I'd rank them in the order listed in the poll, so Ronson gets my vote. I like the Bowie records he played on more than anything the other dudes were a part of, Third notwithstanding.

May is a close second.

I'm not too jazzed on Chilton's tone. I don't partic like or dislike it in general, although it's a little thin for me on the first two Big Star recs. I'm a little surprised to see him listed against these other two guys.

None of these guys have influenced my own sound, playing, or songwriting, although I tried my level best to play along with Ronson when I first started playing guitar.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby Angus Jung on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:22 am

Alex Chilton committed several Strat quack-tone crimes on record. He's last.

Mick Ronson - classic rock tone. He's second.

Brian May - Truly unique, distinctive guitar sound. He wins.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby numberthirty on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:12 pm

May first -





Those tones are amazing. A serious leap forward. Same goes for this -





The guitar choir/solo section until the end is crazy. I'm still not sure how he did that.



No reason to even talk this over. It's just badass.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby Brett Eugene Ralph on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:21 pm

Angus Jung wrote:Alex Chilton committed several Strat quack-tone crimes on record. He's last.

Mick Ronson - classic rock tone. He's second.

Brian May - Truly unique, distinctive guitar sound. He wins.



If we're judging on tone alone, I'm inclined to vote this way, too. I do think, however, that Chilton's value as a guitarist goes way beyond any discussions of his tone (which is true of pretty much everyone, I suppose).

May's tone, however, is a true marvel--one of the most glorious sounds in Rock.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby tmidgett on Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:29 pm

Brian May, no question. If it's down to just the sound.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby DregsInTheCrowd on Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:42 pm

Winner battles Malcolm Young?

Always loved Chilton's tone, but this one goes to May.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby SecondEdition on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:05 pm

Best clean sound: Chilton
Best distorted sound: Ronson
Most immediately identifiable sound: May

In the end, I gotta say Ronson. That guitar sound is so goddamn killer.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby same on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:06 pm

DregsInTheCrowd wrote:Winner battles Malcolm Young?


Almost added him but AC/DC are just too heavy to make a straight comparison.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby Eugenius on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:11 pm

While we're throwing in alternates, how about, Marc Bolan? He has many of the hallmarks of the '70s tone. And it can hardly be argued that he wasn't influential.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby MrMattDiehl on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:29 pm

Funny poll. I would break down my response as such:

#3: Alex Chilton. Superficially, doesn't seem like a wildly obvious choice - his guitar tone is all over the place, sometimes shitty, sometimes amazing. But it usually, in a quite artful and subtle way, fits the song regardless in the perfect way; also, you can pretty much always tell it's Chilton - his tone seems to be less dependent on gear choices and more just on his musical personality. It always sounds like him no matter what you put in his hands to play, and that's cool.

#2: Brian May. Obviously, the tone god. His achievement is impressive because he actually invented shit to make his tone, it didn't really sound like anything else, and had an ambition to it that was both kinda OCD and unhinged simultaneously. That said...

#1: I have to go with Mick Ronson - maybe because he's sorta the underdog (well, okay, Chilton's the underdog) but also because his shit was so exacting. Sorta like Keith Richards, Ronson played shit that seemed easy and effortless, but was in fact quite complex in what he did - even down to his tone. I read some amazing thing about how he used the wah pedal to dial in tone in this freaky way; a lot of people that have worked with Ronson said he was just insanely innovative at getting something that you wanted to listen to, and might even seem familiar, but was actually from another planet. And while May managed to do more with more, Ronson could do the overdubbed thing, but also be quite subtle. I suppose May's subtle shit is cool/great too, but Ronson always managed to do something cool without sounding like he's overplaying, even if he was...
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby EmpireStateTroopers on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:14 pm

154 wrote:I'm not a super fan of any of these guys, but May has the coolest guitar of all time.


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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby John Houlihan on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:45 pm

I agree with everyone who posted in this thread.

May's tone wins. There is a moment in (don't laugh) We Will Rock You that is the quintessential rock moment. It happens in the solo/outro part. As awesome as it sounds (and it sounds awesome) there's maybe a second-long 'scratcha-scratcha' that is perhaps the most punk rock 'scratcha-scratcha' in the history of music. As many times as I hear this song, no matter the context, I am moved by its purity.

I'm not a fan of the hollowness, but here is a guy who got it right times a hundred.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby Brett Eugene Ralph on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:11 am

John Houlihan wrote:I agree with everyone who posted in this thread.

May's tone wins. There is a moment in (don't laugh) We Will Rock You that is the quintessential rock moment. It happens in the solo/outro part. As awesome as it sounds (and it sounds awesome) there's maybe a second-long 'scratcha-scratcha' that is perhaps the most punk rock 'scratcha-scratcha' in the history of music. As many times as I hear this song, no matter the context, I am moved by its purity.

I'm not a fan of the hollowness, but here is a guy who got it right times a hundred.


Oh, man, I totally love the "We Will Rock You" outro, especially when you can hear his fingers squeaking across the strings.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby John Houlihan on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:22 am

Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:
John Houlihan wrote:I agree with everyone who posted in this thread.

May's tone wins. There is a moment in (don't laugh) We Will Rock You that is the quintessential rock moment. It happens in the solo/outro part. As awesome as it sounds (and it sounds awesome) there's maybe a second-long 'scratcha-scratcha' that is perhaps the most punk rock 'scratcha-scratcha' in the history of music. As many times as I hear this song, no matter the context, I am moved by its purity.

I'm not a fan of the hollowness, but here is a guy who got it right times a hundred.


Oh, man, I totally love the "We Will Rock You" outro, especially when you can hear his fingers squeaking across the strings.


The whole thing is ampy and perfect and ridiculous and modest.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby etch on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:18 am

Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:
May's tone, however, is a true marvel--one of the most glorious sounds in Rock.


I geeked out for awhile years ago and read all about how he achieved his sound. It started with him and his father building the guitar together and then playing with a sharpened six pence for a pick.

Then it's onward to the Vox amps, which he uses vintage and newer ones but removes all of the extra channels save for the normal channel. He uses nine of them live. They are loaded with Celestion alnico Blues and a few Greenbacks.

His main effect pedal is the Dallas Rangemaster (treble boost). Overall I think his tone comes from: an unusual guitar and pick up configuration, a cranked low wattage (mainly class A) amp, and the sixpence pick.

He really does get a unique tone that is hard to replicate.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby 154 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:13 am

EmpireStateTroopers wrote:
154 wrote:I'm not a super fan of any of these guys, but May has the coolest guitar of all time.


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Hah. There was a teal blue Guild one for sale about a year ago for $3,000. It looked great.

But none of these are the real deal. He built the guitar with his father out of a fuckin' Victorian fireplace mantle! Epic shit.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby numberthirty on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:54 am

154 wrote:But none of these are the real deal. He built the guitar with his father out of a fuckin' Victorian fireplace mantle! Epic shit.


Isn't the trem spring from a mortorcycle?
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby MrMattDiehl on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:32 pm

I thought May also built some early custom amps from, like, car radios or something? Real geek shit. Cool as fuck.
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Re: '70s tone-dome: Ronson/May/Chilton

Postby numberthirty on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:29 pm

MrMattDiehl wrote:I thought May also built some early custom amps from, like, car radios or something? Real geek shit. Cool as fuck.


John Deacon's The Deacy? The amp May used with the AC30 for harmonies?
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