Totally not crap -- I did sound for them way back when they were touring on their first record and it was fucking astounding -- tight, relentless, harsh sounding, loud, and faster than fuck. I had never seen a band play that hard without a break, the guitarist tuning during songs, etc. They totally reshaped my idea of what a good band should bring.
The records may not reflect this; it's been a while since I listened to them, but I can remember not being as blown away as I was by the live experience.
"You get a kink in your neck looking up at people or down at people. But when you look straight across, there's no kinks."