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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby placeholder on Mon May 25, 2015 6:02 pm

For the record—and I've said this elsewhere here—I don't think "grunge" or "the grunge scene" is/was a real thing. It's the '90s equiv of "new wave"—a meaaningless marketing term.

When I say that AIC went "grunge" as a cash-in, I don't mean that I think they co-opted a real thing; I mean that they started playing a slightly different style of cock-rock because that's what labels were looking for. "Darker G'n'R" pretty much nails it. Hair metal in flannel. Boring. CRAP.

Wood Goblin wrote:Meanwhile, across town, Layne Staley was spraying Aqua-Net in his hair and singing about boinking hot chix. He wasn't opening for Green River.


He could have been if he'd been wearing the right outfits. Green River was a hair-metal band.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby tallchris on Tue May 26, 2015 4:22 pm

placeholder wrote: Green River was a hair-metal band.


I think of Green River as a weird amalgamation of the Stooges, Aerosmith, and Bauhaus.

Mother Love Bone though, total fuggin' hair metal (also the first Seattle band of that era to put out a release on a major).
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby placeholder on Tue May 26, 2015 4:45 pm

tallchris wrote:
placeholder wrote: Green River was a hair-metal band.


I think of Green River as a weird amalgamation of the Stooges, Aerosmith, and Bauhaus.

Mother Love Bone though, total fuggin' hair metal (also the first Seattle band of that era to put out a release on a major).


Oof. I was thinking of Mother Love Bone! I don't think I've ever heard Green River!

Sorry for being a total lamestain, grungeteers!
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby jimmy two hands on Wed May 27, 2015 1:01 pm

placeholder wrote:
tallchris wrote:
placeholder wrote: Green River was a hair-metal band.


I think of Green River as a weird amalgamation of the Stooges, Aerosmith, and Bauhaus.

Mother Love Bone though, total fuggin' hair metal (also the first Seattle band of that era to put out a release on a major).


Oof. I was thinking of Mother Love Bone! I don't think I've ever heard Green River!

Sorry for being a total lamestain, grungeteers!


Mother Love Bone were a bunch of straight up cob-nobblers.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby tallchris on Wed May 27, 2015 1:55 pm

placeholder wrote:
tallchris wrote:
placeholder wrote: Green River was a hair-metal band.


I think of Green River as a weird amalgamation of the Stooges, Aerosmith, and Bauhaus.

Mother Love Bone though, total fuggin' hair metal (also the first Seattle band of that era to put out a release on a major).


Oof. I was thinking of Mother Love Bone! I don't think I've ever heard Green River!

Sorry for being a total lamestain, grungeteers!


I don't think Green River is like, all that great, but they have a few decent riffs here and there. At the very least, I think Mark Arm's voice keeps it from getting totally hair metal:

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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby punch_the_lion on Wed May 27, 2015 2:15 pm

Green River's greatest contribution will always be giving the song "Leeech" to the Melvins.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby LizardPod on Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:24 pm

Facelift = Crap (Except Confusion and Sea of Sorrow)
Sap & Jar of Flies = Not Crap (I fucking love these two)
Dirt = Majority of the songs are NC
Self-Titled = NC

Haven't really focused on the new lineup, but I don't care.

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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby Awesome_Komodo on Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:58 pm

Which one of you did this?
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby LizardPod on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:06 pm

Awesome_Komodo wrote:Which one of you did this?

What. The. Fuck. Was that?
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby Anthony Flack on Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:39 pm

Ruff Toiz are too cool to read books, yo.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby Seby on Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:59 pm

Not as crap as STP/PJ/Tea Party/Creed/Silverchair/Nickelback etc., but still crap. I was overexposed to a lot of this stuff by school friends with no taste, so it hits a raw nerve with me.

It all sounds like a bunch of terrible glam rock, but without self-satire. Either way, it is poser music.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby Anthony Flack on Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:25 am

Wood Goblin wrote:
BClark wrote:Y'all are entitled to your opinions but it's kind of silly to hear folks here saying things like "they were never really part of the grunge scene"... that "scene" is of course just a marketing term.


No, it really wasn't, at least not for several years. Several bands rejected the label because, like all labels, it's a bit reductive. But it was a real thing.

A bunch of bands shared certain sonic qualities, played the same small venues in the same city, appeared on the same record labels, traded members, and attended each other's shows. Every quality present in a "scene" was present in Seattle in the late 80s. There was nothing cynical or inorganic about it.

Meanwhile, across town, Layne Staley was spraying Aqua-Net in his hair and singing about boinking hot chix. He wasn't opening for Green River.


I thought anybody was allowed to join grunge if they did the yarly voice.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby numberthirty on Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:39 am

Quick question for the "Hair Metal Blows!" faction...

The drums on Nevermind would sound completely different if they weren't trying to make them sound like the drums on the Motley Crue records that came before them.

This fact really never crosses any of your minds?
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby J. Burns on Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:21 am

numberthirty wrote:Quick question for the "Hair Metal Blows!" faction...

The drums on Nevermind would sound completely different if they weren't trying to make them sound like the drums on the Motley Crue records that came before them.

This fact really never crosses any of your minds?


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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby numberthirty on Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:34 am

J. Burns wrote:Devonshire mixes, bro.


Dead serious. Make a mix tape with "Girls, Girls, Girls"/"In Bloom"/"Smokin' In The Boys Room". Even with those mixes, it's not like you threw "Slip It In" or "Clean Sheets" in the slot "In Bloom" is in.

Which is not to say that initial set of mixes isn't better than what they released.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby Wood Goblin on Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:23 pm

numberthirty wrote:Quick question for the "Hair Metal Blows!" faction...

The drums on Nevermind would sound completely different if they weren't trying to make them sound like the drums on the Motley Crue records that came before them.

This fact really never crosses any of your minds?


"Dave, we want your drums to sound like the drums on Theater of Pain. So on this next take, play shitty."
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby placeholder on Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:15 pm

numberthirty wrote:Quick question for the "Hair Metal Blows!" faction...

The drums on Nevermind would sound completely different if they weren't trying to make them sound like the drums on the Motley Crue records that came before them.

This fact really never crosses any of your minds?


It's never crossed my mind. I also don't care about Nirvana and have never heard Nevermind all the way through, though!

Wood Goblin wrote:"Dave, we want your drums to sound like the drums on Theater of Pain. So on this next take, play shitty."


I laughed!
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby SecondEdition on Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:43 pm

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Maybe this just means I'm naive, but I never thought Dirt was intended to glorify drug use. The lyrics may not be all that intelligent, but that doesn't equal a heroin-chic pose to me. Heroin chic is still something like the Brian Jonestown Massacre. Dirt is still, at heart, someone (e.g. Mr. Staley) who's fully aware of the mental gymnastics he has to do in order to justify his drug abuse (e.g. "Junkhead," "Godsmack").
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby a leg plaster on Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:17 pm

Without you EA board, I'd have never known that...
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...was written, sung, and performed on record.
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Re: Band: Alice in Chains

Postby windofpain on Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:08 am

AIC is sick, i switch over to some burnt CDR of dirt i found at work whenever the local radio station plays a shitty song.
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