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Dude: Nate Silver

Person who renders all pundits, talking heads, and self-proclaimed experts useless
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Re: Dude: Nate Silver

Postby Clyde on Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:24 pm

Wood Goblin wrote:Silver’s slide into a pundit cliche is dispiriting, to say the least.

But I agree with him on Noonan. She’s a force for evil, and yes, you can find plenty of idiotic positions and comments that came from her, but she was a masterful speechwriter when she worked for Reagan. I used to teach some of those speeches when I taught freshman comp and speech. Rhetorically, they really were brilliant. Evil, but brilliant.

And you can’t blame Noonan for HW’s reversal on taxes, come on. You can credit her for phrasing something in a manner that people remember decades later.


Begging to differ about the masterful speechwriter bit. To me that's like saying Bon Jovi are master songwriters because Livin' on a Prayer is insanely catchy.

But, whatever, if you read the article and follow the link, it's clear Silver wasn't talking about Noonan's speechwriting but her punditry.

And too often we let pundits reinforce our convictions with a noisy blend of spin and hokum, whether on climate change or Romney vs. Obama. “Peggy Noonan is someone who is very, very skilled at making bullshit look like some elegant soufflé,” Silver says. “She’s very good at rhetoric and argument, but it’s still not grounded in the truth—it all falls apart every four years, but I don’t think she’ll be out of a job any time soon.”


Funny thing is, his quote about Noonan could almost as easily be applied to himself these days, except I don't think anybody is out there saying he's good at rhetoric and argument.
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Re: Dude: Nate Silver

Postby Get dog costumes on Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:23 pm

Hahaha. This is my favorite work he's done in a while

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/iowa-caucus-2020-election-live/255570/
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