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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby mrcancelled on Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:22 pm



Yeah, not to mention this:

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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby jx on Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:16 am

Amber is awful for bringing up how she’s high/on coke at pretty much any opportunity she gets. Most boring take ever.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby rayword45 on Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:55 pm

The more I read about that Anna chick, the shittier she seems. Whether she shares TERF bullshit, climate conspiracies and weird sexual traditionalisms soaked in irony or 100 percent sincere, I really don't give a fuck she can choke and die.

And I certainly don't need some honky ass bougie ass Brooklynite art critic turned cocaine podcaster to tell me I don't understand the working class or that race doesn't matter. She can eat my ass. And Amber associating with her is a baaaaaad look.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby kokorodoko on Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:31 pm


My god what trash. Both of them sound like idiots, but Khachiyan takes the lead.

‘We’re living under the triumph of the nerds… If you had an American Psycho-esque novel today, there wouldn’t be this broad-shouldered besuited guy who looked like he walked out of the pages of an advertisement. It would be about a fin-tech soy boy. He’d be hunched over, clutching his tote-bag’

Seriously, why not just say mangina? Go on, do it.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby kokorodoko on Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:14 am


It was late and I didn't have the energy for more than a quick jab, but this deserves a longer comment.

What Amber Frost is doing here by invoking ”ordinary people” is suggesting that belonging to ”ordinary people” automatically in itself justifies your opinions. ”Ordinary people don’t care about that gender stuff, who are we to be the elitist intellectuals to tell them otherwise?”. Why should anyone get a pass on holding reactionary views, working class or not? Surely this is way more elitist and patronising, literally the right-wing populist trick. This can only mean furthermore, that there are certain people who fall into the category of ”ordinary” and who are given primacy over those that are ”unordinary” (LGBTQ people and so on, since claiming that those need to be specifically taken into the picture is nonsense idpol), and ”ordinary” is then translated into ”the working class” or ”the people” while those not falling into this generalized mass are just special interests.

This is a tendency that I notice in those who claim we have to move away from identity politics and start talking about class again and so on. You can’t just pick up ’class’ as a ready-made concept. If it’s to mean anything at all you must look at what it actually contains. And you will (it looks to me) inevitably end up with different categories that are conflicting with each other which can still be described as a ’class’ but certainly not re-subsumed into a category which smoothes out all those differences.

Of course liberal identity politics is toothless and diversionary. Of course liberal speech codes are hypocritical. But that’s not what Frost is attacking here. She attacks those things specifically as they happen in left organizing, and in a way that it seems she’s just taking delight in being naughty by railing against the PC establishment. This attitude is all over the article. I would have to ask, is this about the struggle or is it about you? Khachiyan is of course way worse and doesn’t say a single useful thing.

And then there’s things like this...
‘I think the women who like it don’t understand why they do… women today aren’t allowed to want a traditional relationship’, [Frost] says.

...where I just have no idea what the fuck she’s talking about.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby kokorodoko on Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:03 pm

‘I think the women who like it don’t understand why they do… women today aren’t allowed to want a traditional relationship’, [Frost] says.

Ok sorry for triple post but my god, this is really rich from someone who slams others for not talking about "the real issues".
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby rayword45 on Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:50 pm

True socialism is co-owning a podcast that pulls in over a million annually and spending that money on cocaine tainted with South American blood
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby AdamN on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:12 pm

Amber is/was roommates with DSA President, Nick Mullen. What did you all expect?
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby Clyde on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:24 am

As far as I can tell Anna is a genuinely bad and stupid person whose only real motivation is low-level fame. The foundation of her schtick is little more than having skimmed Totem & Taboo and some vague notions about epater-ing les bourgeoisie, with woke/bourgeoisie being synonymous in her coke-addled mind. 20 years ago she would have had a column in The New York Press that everybody hated that she may have been able to leverage into a single appearance on Politically Incorrect.

Amber has had some annoying edgelord tendencies for some time but was also capable of thinking critically and writing well, although she seems to be moving generally rightward, and that's a shame. Before she was an official host of CTH I thought she was great but maybe I missed something or maybe she just works best in small doses.

Everything in that interview is thoughtless and boring. It hardly seems worth it to engage in it more than that. If they're getting dragged hard, good.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby llllllllllllllllllllllll on Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:53 pm

kokorodoko wrote:
‘We’re living under the triumph of the nerds… If you had an American Psycho-esque novel today, there wouldn’t be this broad-shouldered besuited guy who looked like he walked out of the pages of an advertisement. It would be about a fin-tech soy boy. He’d be hunched over, clutching his tote-bag’

Seriously, why not just say mangina? Go on, do it.


Mangina? What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby ooop on Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:05 pm

rayword45 wrote:I really don't give a fuck she can choke and die.


Very good look, my friend. That's a *great* way to talk about women you don't like.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby Wood Goblin on Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:50 pm

In fairness, that’s *exactly* the kind of insipid, “edgy” subject that Bret Easton Ellis would write about.

For those of us outside the loop, who is Nick Mullen?
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby kokorodoko on Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:24 pm

llllllllllllllllllllllll wrote:
kokorodoko wrote:
‘We’re living under the triumph of the nerds… If you had an American Psycho-esque novel today, there wouldn’t be this broad-shouldered besuited guy who looked like he walked out of the pages of an advertisement. It would be about a fin-tech soy boy. He’d be hunched over, clutching his tote-bag’

Seriously, why not just say mangina? Go on, do it.


Mangina? What the fuck are you talking about?

It's an insult used by Red Pillers for men they think are feminized, just like soy boy.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby Anthony Flack on Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:51 pm

Anybody who thinks that "we" need to "move away" from "identity politics" - as if fighting for minority rights is going to stop people from fighting for workers' rights and the environment too? It would be silly to claim that minority rights directly impedes any other progressive goals.

So what they are saying here is: we don't like you talking about minorities. We don't like hearing about all the gay stuff, or rights for Muslims or any of that ker-azy far left equality business. It puts people off. People don't want to save the planet or get health treatment if it means being nice to minorities. Rather than challenge people on their prejudices, can't we just say screw the minorities and nurture a progressive movement that is more welcoming to white racists, bigots and homophobes? It would be a more popular position and it's winning that's important right? I don't give a fuck about minorities, and there are more people like me than there are people like you.

They're saying hey, rather than form a progressive coalition with us all in it, how about we form a progressive coalition with just us and all you guys can fuck off?
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby ooop on Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:48 pm

It is remarkable to see how much you all hate these two women, largely based upon things they have absolutely never said or done, but which you would like to pretend they have.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby llllllllllllllllllllllll on Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:02 pm

ooop wrote:It is remarkable to see how much you all hate these two women, largely based upon things they have absolutely never said or done, but which you would like pretend they have.


Right on. It’s as if we’re not reading an interview but some sort of Rorschach test. These replies are pure fucking projection and if Frost would have responded without a sliver of personality I doubt the piece would have even found its way to this forum.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby warmowski on Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:06 am

Spiked Magazine? Paging FM Gramsci to the thread. FM Gramsci to the Chapo thread.


Also:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... foundation

I am not making any claim about Spiked's editorial priorities with this latest piece. I noticed it was on the masthead and remembered the warnings.

I will say that if I was a sociopathic petro billionaire a la' the Kochs, possessed of unlimited resources while facing decimation of my industry by political means, I wouldn't hesitate to buy as much confusion as I could within the opposition's ecosystem.

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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby rayword45 on Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:14 am

ooop wrote:
rayword45 wrote:I really don't give a fuck she can choke and die.


Very good look, my friend. That's a *great* way to talk about women you don't like.

nah I'd say the same thing about any of the other Chapos espousing this racist fucking drivel. Choke. And. Die.

ooop wrote:It is remarkable to see how much you all hate these two women, largely based upon things they have absolutely never said or done, but which you would like pretend they have.


lmfao so the interview, the screenshot of Instagram, and the mentions of cocaine on the podcast are all "absolutely never said or done" huh? You wanna accuse me or all of us of being sexist, whatever, but don't fucking whitewash their ignorance to race (I'm assuming you're white, I am ZERO PERCENT WHITE which is probably why I'm not a chapo/cumtown/red scare fan) or their defense of sexual predators.

Also, you're defending a TERF LMAO
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby rayword45 on Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:19 am

Wood Goblin wrote:In fairness, that’s *exactly* the kind of insipid, “edgy” subject that Bret Easton Ellis would write about.

For those of us outside the loop, who is Nick Mullen?

Host of Cumtown, sister podcast of Chapo but less political, more pure comedy

Also absolutely not a fan. Sorry but when a huge portion of your fanbase is MDE fans and stupidpol posters I don't care that the Chapos gave their seal of irony approval. Hell I don't listen to Chapo either. Ironic humor can be funny but when a huge portion of your fanbase is legitimate bigots (speaking only to Cumtown here) who think saying homophobic slurs in bad fake accents mocking my ethnicity is the pinnacle of comedy, you have FAILED.
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Re: Podcast: Chapo Trap House

Postby jbar on Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:39 am

Chapo served their purpose by giving someone like me (well meaning but politically directionless and somewhat socially incapable) a little wind - I heard of DSA through them, picked up some good reading, and got turned on to Breadtube.

I think they did more good than harm, but as I move further left, I'm a bit over it. I'll listen to an episode of Matt talking history, and Virgil's interviews are better than they have any right to be, but I'm spending my leftist hours on the Antifada and Anti-capitalist Chronicles.

That Q&A episode a while back bummed me out.
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