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but spell it however you like

Postby seanurban on Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:27 pm

::: wrote:"Kotton Krown," 09 September 1987, San Diego (same tour as the 14 October 1987 Chicago show on Hold That Tiger)

Looks like 25 Sep 1987.
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Re: but spell it however you like

Postby ::: on Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:41 am

seanurban wrote:
::: wrote:"Kotton Krown," 09 September 1987, San Diego (same tour as the 14 October 1987 Chicago show on Hold That Tiger)

Looks like 25 Sep 1987.

How embarrassing. When the skills go, they go.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby numberthirty on Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:23 pm

::: wrote:^ I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist that everybody drop whatever you're doing for four minutes and watch and listen to the video posted above. Unfortunately it's not a very good recording, but it's just fucking amazing. ...OK, you're free to go.


It is about twice as amazing once you factor in that the band touring with that gear and pulling it off was like winning a drag race in an '83 El Camino.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby ::: on Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:32 pm

numberthirty wrote:
::: wrote:^ I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist that everybody drop whatever you're doing for four minutes and watch and listen to the video posted above. Unfortunately it's not a very good recording, but it's just fucking amazing. ...OK, you're free to go.


It is about twice as amazing once you factor in that the band touring with that gear and pulling it off was like winning a drag race in an '83 El Camino.

What, did they bring like 50 guitars in a U-Haul trailer or something, in 1987?
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby TomWanderer on Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:49 pm

LeftyGoldblatt wrote:Far more crap than their aesthetics, reputation, and pedigree should justify. I just don't get it. Most of their songs just kind of flop around "artily" without going anywhere melody-wise or cementing into something memorable. Only a couple songs of their suggest to me anything other than CRAP.


This is a stance on Sonic Youth that I have heard a few times over the years that I just don't understand. In terms of melody and "cementing into something memorable" Songs like Dirty Boots, Expressway to Yr Skull and Teenage Riot are, to me, unbelievable songs that marry noise and odd tuning with catchy melody and an almost infectious "exciting" sound. Exciting in that it just sounds like awesome, welcome, new rock music in a time when the sound of rock music was (mostly) over-inflated bullshit. The SST records lineup of 1986ish was world changing.

I've been listening to Evol and Sister quite a bit lately and I had forgotten how much these records shaped my teenage years. I think they still sound amazing and they walk an interesting line of being more "musical", mellow and precise than they let on, as well as being more aggressive and experimental than the song betrays. I didn't follow them much after the mid 90s, but I really believe there is a wealth of great music to uncover with Sonic Youth. With their sheer output, there is inevitably going to be some crap, but I think you'll find something you like in there. Listen to Sister.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Spyros on Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:13 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b073gmvp/artsnight-series-2-27-thurston-moore

Probably restricted to UK viewers only, but Thurston's first foray into BBC arts entertainment presenting. I got strangely defensive when he started having a go at Simon Bates.

Pete Shelley also sounds exactly like BBC One Day International commentator, Charles Dagnall.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Boombats on Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:51 pm

Possibly an oldie, but a goodie

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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby OrthodoxEaster on Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:02 pm

Sonic Youth recently released an archival instrumental LP of material from an aborted film soundtrack, recorded around the time of EVOL in 1986. It's pretty damn good.

https://www.discogs.com/Sonic-Youth-Spi ... se/8371658
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby skoz on Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:17 pm

OrthodoxEaster wrote:Sonic Youth recently released an archival instrumental LP of material from an aborted film soundtrack, recorded around the time of EVOL in 1986. It's pretty damn good.

https://www.discogs.com/Sonic-Youth-Spi ... se/8371658


I recall being pretty lukewarm on the finished made in the USA soundtrack but these recordings are really awesome.

I wish more evol/sister era gems would come out of the archive. It seems like a lot of those projects have stalled since the breakup.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Sprague Dawley on Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:30 am

NOT CRAP

after 30 years pottering around with dubbed tapes of daydream nation I finally splurged on the 2xLP. so great. holy shit. Somehow never bought Sister or Evol, reckon I need both of them going by this thread

Dirty and Goo were fairly unavoidable back then, cant recall much but could probably make an alright mix tape from the 2

gave Murray St a burl, fuck that soppy shit.

Thousand Leaves sounds like it'd get on my tits too
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby andrzej on Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:50 am

pardon me if it's been already mentioned, but this live record is pretty incredible

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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Redline on Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:52 pm

They're selling stuff on Reverb Oct. 30th
https://reverb.com/news/the-official-so ... op-preview
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Christopher on Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:39 am

How much for the wedding ring?


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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby zircona1 on Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:36 pm

I find several SY songs that Kim sings on to be kind of eerie - Tunic, Little Trouble Girl, Bull in the Heather, the intro of Teen Age Riot, etc.

I saw them when they toured with The Flaming Lips for Rather Ripped, it was a nice 2-for-1 deal, considering I had never seen either of them. Now that they're no more I'm really glad I did. They opened with 'Candle'.

Kim Gordon's autobiography is pretty good, the first chapter is titled 'The End' and it's about the last SY show in South America.

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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Andrew. on Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:53 pm

I guess the stars never aligned for me with this band. Never got into them. Got that they were apparently important in different ways, wasn't necessarily opposed to them, but they never really interested me. I had a friend and roommate with great taste in music who wore a Goo Tshirt and liked them.15-20 years ago, I guess. They just never did it for me. Were they kinda invested in being "cool"? Kind of pretentious without much to stand for? I dunno. Didn't speak to me, in any case.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Redline on Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:30 am

Andrew. wrote:I guess the stars never aligned for me with this band. Never got into them. Got that they were apparently important in different ways, wasn't necessarily opposed to them, but they never really interested me. I had a friend and roommate with great taste in music who wore a Goo Tshirt and liked them.15-20 years ago, I guess. They just never did it for me. Were they kinda invested in being "cool"? Kind of pretentious without much to stand for? I dunno. Didn't speak to me, in any case.

Listen to Bad Moon Rising or the first S/T ep. It should click. Honest.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby Wood Goblin on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:31 am

I like Sonic Youth a lot and have been spinning Daydream Nation quite a bit lately, but they were definitely invested in being cool. They pulled it off, at least for a while, but it wasn’t effortless.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby DregsInTheCrowd on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:44 am

Andrew. wrote:Were they kinda invested in being "cool"? Kind of pretentious without much to stand for?


It's something that happened in the middle phase of their career, the early 90s, which is when Goo and Dirty and the like came out. I like those records - Sonic Youth is basically in my DNA at this point - but they aren't nearly as scary and strange as their earliest records. As noted, give the S/T and Bad Moon Rising a shot, but also Confusion is Sex (especially the back half) and EVOL. I love Sister, and Daydream Nation is a top 5 album for me, but they don't have the horror movie intensity of those four early records. And those four records are all very different from one another - disliking one doesn't necessarily mean you won't like another, so give 'em all a shot.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby eliya on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:48 am

If you strip SY of their "coolness" and how influential they were and still are, you would be left with a lot of really good records. If you like rock music and/or experimental music, you will find at least 5 records that will appeal to you.

Everyone is invested in being cool.
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Re: Band: Sonic Youth

Postby OrthodoxEaster on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:55 am

Wood Goblin wrote:I like Sonic Youth a lot and have been spinning Daydream Nation quite a bit lately, but they were definitely invested in being cool. They pulled it off, at least for a while, but it wasn’t effortless.


Andrew. wrote:Were they kinda invested in being "cool"? Kind of pretentious without much to stand for? I dunno.


I don't think they were any more invested in being cool than say, the Velvet Underground. And perhaps less so than say, early Jesus and Mary Chain or Pussy Galore. I could definitely see that argument being made for them during the 1990s and beyond but I also wonder how much of that was them and how much of it was the cultural moment, in which both Sonic Youth's m.o. and what was "cool" suddenly became simpatico. Kinda both, I'd say.

But the band that made Confusion Is Sex never really struck me as all that different from any number of abrasive, somewhat conceptual NY groups of the time. Which is to say cool, but not in a particularly studied way. Flailing around whilst sticking drumsticks under the neck of your guitar was a much, much less fashionable and more marginal attempt at cool than, to use a much later example, some shit like the Strokes or the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Early SY was kinda grimy and spastic.

In terms of a performer standing for something, I don't really think that's always so necessary. Art and music for the sake of it is more than enough of a concept to get behind. Just my two cents.
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