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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby Ranxerox on Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:29 am

Directly after watching Hereditary in the theater I was merely satisfied. The film grew on me and I watched it about six times one week as the final minutes, especially the sound craft of the treehouse awakening, got into me good. Love that film.

Midsommar seemed like the Wicker Men. I never even blinked to the 'break up' aspect and found the selfish drives of the various characters as simply showing out why they were chosen for consumption by a religious doggedness that could not sustain itself without predation and trafficking in humans.

To me, both Hereditary and Midsommar are about the weird, unbounded wanderings of self-interest wrought in the group. I did not find the movie to be about Dani, though she was chosen to be the surviving womb.

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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby numberthirty on Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:46 pm

Review of the director's cut. Be forewarned, it seriously goes into some of the exact specifics on what makes it's way into the director's cut. I'd avoid it if you plan on seeing it at some point.

- https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3579151/midsommar-directors-cut-review/

[Review] ‘Midsommar’ Director’s Cut Adds (Even More) Depth to the Characters
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby Antero on Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:54 am

Caught the Director's Cut. It was still good! The really remarkable thing about it was that it didn't actually feel much longer, despite literally being so - it still flowed incredibly well.

The original theatrical release is tighter and scarier. The director's cut has more to soak in and a different pace. Not much was lost/gained either way, just shading.

The theatrical has some more attention paid to visual effects re: psychedelics, which are extremely effective.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby Malice on Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:57 am

The director's cut is 3 fucking hours. That's just even more self-indulgence on an already boring-ass movie. What's in the extra half hour, more mise-en-scene wank and daytime-television drama?
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby PARPS on Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:16 pm

Malice wrote:The director's cut is 3 fucking hours. That's just even more self-indulgence on an already boring-ass movie. What's in the extra half hour, more mise-en-scene wank and daytime-television drama?


It's thirty minutes of Ari Aster addressing you by name and asking what he can do to better accommodate your movie-going experience. There's also like 3 Rush songs added to the soundtrack.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby Malice on Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:24 pm

PARPS wrote:
Malice wrote:The director's cut is 3 fucking hours. That's just even more self-indulgence on an already boring-ass movie. What's in the extra half hour, more mise-en-scene wank and daytime-television drama?


It's thirty minutes of Ari Aster addressing you by name and asking what he can do to better accommodate your movie-going experience. There's also like 3 Rush songs added to the soundtrack.


Hmm, that actually is an improvement.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby Bernardo on Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:25 am

Saw both cuts in the space of a few days. NC either way, but the shorter version is better IMO. I find that the director's cut is more manipulative, in that it paints the boyfriend character less ambiguously. I also don't think anything essential was left out of the shorter version (which is plenty long already), having seen both.

It's really not a horror movie, btw.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby wellsyuk on Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:51 am

I thought it was fantastic. Agreed that some moments might be unintentionally funny, but it looked just incredible, and there was a lot to relate to and subtext. There should be way more creepy folklore films made..
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby the finger genius on Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:36 pm

Man, Ari loves bashing people's heads in, huh?
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby VaticanShotglass on Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:27 pm

The long cut wasn't as good to me but fun to see, nonetheless. It was all like DVD extra stuff. I found it interesting in that way, to see what choices were made with the first cut. Somethings were made more obvious and spelled out. There were more dick jokes. I think there were a few sound cues absent from the shorter cut. Fun to see, but not an improvement. The new material was spread throughout the film, if anyone was wondering.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby octoberallover on Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:18 am

Dani's entire family had just been gruesomely murdered by her bipolar sister. In light of the circumstances, it's fine that she doesn't want to take shrooms or that she harshes her not newly-orphaned-by-parricide boyfriend's mellow. The boyfriend's clique are callous meritocrats who expect socially vulnerable people to quarantine themselves if they're not having fun. The Hårga are a collectivist society whose extreme notions of personal sacrifice extend to ättestupa yet permit members to experience things that deeply suck as awful. The most disquieting thing about the film is not that Dani chooses to be Hårga, but that it's difficult to say which society is less humane.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby Earwicker on Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:56 pm

I didn't really get it (and I loved hereditary). I couldn't quite pinpoint why, as everything about it is up my street and I should have. After ruminating on it I think it's because of two main things.
I found the characters flat. They were all annoying but that in and of itself isn't necessarily bad. You can have bad or annoying characters but they can have a charm or 'something' that makes you attach to them. This didn't have that. I just didn't care. Having said that none of them were so bad they they deserved being burned alive in a bear skin.
Added to that is my second problem which was that during the entire last act the main characters were drugged out of their eyeballs. I don't have an issue with drugs in film motivating action but when the last decisive actions are caused by them it dulls everything. The boyfriend's infidelity was hardly his fault was it? He was mashed out of his face after being manipulated by a creepy sex cult for days. Her decision to burn him alive seems all the more unreasonable from that point of view but even that decision was made while she was whanged on space juice so it wasn't exactly a character driven choice either. Her smile at the end could've just been the beginning of drug induced giggle fit. We've all been there.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby VaticanShotglass on Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:29 am

Much agreement with the last two posts.

I really have a problem with audience takes moralizing on whether the boyfriend deserved to be burned alive in a bear carcass. Being against the death penalty, I obviously don't think he deserved cruel execution for being a shitty dude (and he seemed like a shitty, spineless dude way before the sex cult drugged him with goober sauce). But that doesn't mean that it isn't somehow internally poetic in this day tripping nightmare.

I love how fucking zonked out she is at the end. I thought the absurdity of it all was catching up with the movie and then she laughed at that moment and I laughed. It was all cool. The americans are dead (almost). They didn't deserve their fates. She'll be stuck in with these death hippies, but fuck it, it's been a long, confusing day and that jerky motherfucker sure does look stupid in that bear. Fire can be pretty sometimes. Drugs. Exhaustion. Roll credits.

Two questions, did we ever find out how often these cult murders are supposed to happen? At one point it seems like they only do it once in a good long while, yet another part seems like it happens a few times within most folk's lifetime. What's up with that?
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby RSMurphy on Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:13 pm

It's a horror film. Horrific stuff like shitty boyfriend's being burned alive in an eviscerated bear happens. Did I think Christine was deserving of her fate in Drag Me To Hell? Hell no. Mrs. Ganush needed to pump the breaks there, but it's a horror film. Horror happens.

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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby emmanuelle cunt on Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:30 am

Weird one to pin down in terms of C/NC. I'm certainly not going to CRAP it as it definitely was original , was going to something and had a lot of fantastically shot scenes. On the other hand, for every single thing that worked, there were one or two things which misfired. So NC, but I don't think it was very good.

In random order:

- the sound design was as good as the PRF says. I loved the crying/howling in unison towards the end.

- One of the reasons it felt mostly flat to me was that, having not seen any of the trailers or reviews, I was hoping for more on the psychological/character level. The first act/introduction (before the camera goes upside down when they travel to Sweden) had fantastically real and cringy relationship/friends moments and the only one that matter to the film was the relationship seemingly ending. When the camera did that flip I was wondering what does the dirctor says here- that the rest of the film is going to be dream/horror-like? And it was but at the cost of psychological depth and halting character dynamics which was hugely disappointing. Everything else that was not connected to the relationship was thrown under the bus (or into the fire) suddenly and what was left was an detached from reality hallucination with a breaking up relationship theme. And it was directed crafty enough to keep me interested in the visuals/sounds, but I remember thinking "so it's just going to be like this till the end of the film", checking how much time is left (something over an hour) and going "oh crap".

- It felt lame to me how the film was just erasing characters without any consequences. And how the first act and all of the things which happened in it on the story level were in service of just showing that the girl had reasons to feel alienated in the relationship she was in. Literally one scene could have done the same job, so why introduce so much drama?

- Everything about it was screaming that the director has tons of skills so I was seriously puzzled by blatant forecasting of what is going to happen in the forms of the drawings done with 0% of subtlety. It seemed like the camera was on the pubic hair/elixir of love drawings for about 90 seconds and when it does happen in the film everything is spelled out in capital letters. It almost felt like I missed something there because It was so on the nose.

- As it was said, it was way too long. A lot of the scenes were kinda draggy to the point it was becoming slightly annoying.
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Re: Film: Midsommar

Postby A_Man_Who_Tries on Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:00 am

emmanuelle cunt wrote:Weird one to pin down in terms of C/NC. I'm certainly not going to CRAP it as it definitely was original , was going to something and had a lot of fantastically shot scenes. On the other hand, for every single thing that worked, there were one or two things which misfired. So NC, but I don't think it was very good.

In random order:

- the sound design was as good as the PRF says. I loved the crying/howling in unison towards the end.

- One of the reasons it felt mostly flat to me was that, having not seen any of the trailers or reviews, I was hoping for more on the psychological/character level. The first act/introduction (before the camera goes upside down when they travel to Sweden) had fantastically real and cringy relationship/friends moments and the only one that matter to the film was the relationship seemingly ending. When the camera did that flip I was wondering what does the dirctor says here- that the rest of the film is going to be dream/horror-like? And it was but at the cost of psychological depth and halting character dynamics was was hugely disappointing. Everything else that was not connected to the relationship was thrown under the bus (or into the fire) suddenly and what was left was an detached from reality hallucination with a breaking up relationship theme. And it was directed crafty enough to keep me interested in the visuals/sounds, but I remember thinking "so it's just going to be like this till the end of the film", checking how much time is left (something over an hour) and going "oh crap".

- It felt lame to me how the film was just erasing characters without any consequences. And how the first act and all of the things which happened it on a story level were in service of just showing that the girl has reasons to feel alienated in the relationship she was in. Literally one scene could have done the same job, so why introduce so much drama?

- Everything about it was screaming that the director has tons of skills so I was seriously puzzled by blatant forecasting of what is going to happen in the forms of the drawings done with 0% of subtlety. It seemed like the camera was on the pubic hair/elixir of love drawings for about 90 seconds and when it does happen in the film everything is spelled out in capital letters. It almost felt like I missed something there because I was so on the nose.

- As it was said, it was way too long. A lot of the scenes were kinda draggy to the point it was becoming slightly annoying.


I'd go along with all of this bar the final verdict. It's Crap, with a few technical waffles in its favour.
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