Vocalist: Mike Patton

[Angus Jung]

Man Mike Patton always moves the old needle.

People be all typin'. Type-ity type.

[Gramsci]

The last Album of the Year tour in 1998, and then one of the reunion shows in Los Angeles in 2010. Both times they played "Epic" and i swear to god the prevailing feeling in the crowd was "ok, let's get through this one." Other than that both shows were excellent.

I also don't get the venom directed toward him. Not your bag, fine, but it's not like he's Billy Corgan over here. I once read an interview with him in some guitar magazine once where the interviewer asked him about FNM influencing so many nu-metal bands, and his response was "really? Because most of them are terrible, so i wish they wouldn't say that."

Ah, I saw them Angel Dust and King For a Day tours which I think was the "I never want to fucking play that song again" period. He seems to have made peace with it later on. Which is why I pointed out seeing on a KFAD tour video was odd...

Typing typing...

[DrAwkward]

Remember that also around the era of Epic came the Bungle debut.

And while there are a few good cuts on that album, most is atrocious lecherous funk metal dreck disguising itself as experimental.

The Mr. Bungle s/t debut is certainly the Bungle album that i never listen to. Disco Volante and California more than make up for it, though.

Mr. Bungle was Patton's high school band, FFS, so it's no surprise to me that at the time of the debut album, a bunch of early 20-somethings that were buddies since high school would still be clinging to a lot of the sophomoric teenage boy in-jokes that made them chuckle as 16-year-olds.

[the Classical]

There's this song he sings on the Zorn Morricone record that always pops up on my 'pod on shuffle and I'm always "who the heck is this...oh Patton".

I kind of like a lot of his stuff in theory and very little of it in practice.

I'm not crazy about FNM but it is strange to me how whitewashed out of the history of alternative music they (and Jane's Addiction) have been, I was fourteen when The Real Thing came out and that record was a pretty crucial stepping stone into the world of underground music for us, it was the first sign to us there was something other than metal or college rock (which to was basically R.E.M. or the Cure and was strictly for girls). FNM on the MTV Video Music Awards in 1990 was a much bigger deal to me (& my friends) than the Nirvana explosion a year later.

[harpseal2]

He's a very talented vocalist, and he's a pretty decent guy from what I've seen. When he's not doing a stupid sounding voice or squealing like a retard over funk metal, he can be alright.

I don't enjoy most of his output, but I did like Disco Volante. I also remember enjoying Fantômas quite a lot, even though it was really strange to my little ears.

Not crap, but wf: unfathomable.

[DrAwkward]

funk metal

Just don't get this at all

[lemur68]

funk metal

Just don't get this at all

"Epic" and the first Bungle record = they've been basically the Chili Peppers their entire career!

[aldofarian]

funk metal

Just don't get this at all

"Epic" and the first Bungle record = they've been basically the Chili Peppers their entire career!

The first Bungle record is horrible but it sounds more like the Cardiacs (or Painkiller) than the RHCP.

For FNM, Martin's guitar parts were basically thrash chuggs with weird rhythms. I can think of 2 songs with excessive slap bass (Anne's song and Falling to Pieces). Does Patton sound like Kiedis? You'd be better arguing they looked similar ('Real Thing' era) which I think was Kiedis' beef.

[WeStartToDrift]

I don't understand the appeal of Faith No More, but I really dig Tomahawk, so he just squeaks by as "Not Crap". Like a small pile of delicious pancakes next to a huge mountain of terrible over-cooked waffles.

[WeStartToDrift]

DUPLICATE

[Gramsci]

funk metal

Just don't get this at all

"Epic" and the first Bungle record = they've been basically the Chili Peppers their entire career!

What?

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PS. I seem to be turing into the FNM/Patton defender, but to be blunt like Angel Dust and King for a Day, 2nd Tomahawk, California... and smatterings of his solo work. But I never get that FNM/Patton get their/his entire output judged on one record 25 years ago when he was 20...

[Boombats]

You guys make me feel like a total freak because I like The Real Thing and Irony Is A Dead Scene more than all the rest, and I might prefer Mike the guy even more than Patton the singer. He kills it in many interviews as far as saying shit I agree with, but then I hate most music and am in at least 3 bands at any given time.

Question for FMMikeP: would you like to record a Zappa covers album with me and really piss everyone off?

[projectMalamute]

Mr Bungle was hugely influenced by Fishbone early on. That was their favorite band when getting started as a bunch of 14 year olds in the middle of nowhere, and that's mostly what people are hearing on the first album.

I like plenty of stuff Patton has done a lot: Disco Volante, California, all the Fantomas albums, Angel Dust, his trio with Zorn and Ikue Mori.

He seems like a hard worker who is making a good faith effort to put out music that isn't trivial. That counts for something to me.

His record label has put out lots of good stuff.

easy NC.

[Mick Shrimpton]

Scatman CRAPthers

[lemur68]

funk metal

Just don't get this at all

"Epic" and the first Bungle record = they've been basically the Chili Peppers their entire career!

What?

I'm saying that's the logic of people who hear one song and assume every song is that song.

The same people would be calling FNM "movie soundtrack music" if the Midnight Cowboy theme was the single.

[crustandcrumb]

N/C for the first Tomahawk record and Irony Is A Dead Scene. and because he does whatever he wants, even if a lot, it ends up sucking. not the kind of guy I'd keep as company, but I do admire his approach and generally see him as a talented vocalist

Waffles waffles

[Angus Jung]

Just a heads-up that Mike Patton has formed a new band w/Dave Lombardo and members of the Locust called Dead Cross. It's HC/thrash stuff. On tour right now with Secret Chiefs 3.

Really fun show in Portland last weekend. Riffs/overall guitar-ing is somewhat STOCK (Lars voice), but Patton and Lombardo killed it. Secret Chiefs totally killed it.

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[Boombats]

Yes I am anxiously awaiting their two nights in NYC. I love that Trey and Mike are doing shows again, albeit in separate bands. I also love that they had to cancel a recent show because Mike hurt himself while skateboarding to the gig. Dude is 50 and still skates.

[Angus Jung]

SC3's bass player for this tour is playing a 5-string, using a lot of envelope filter, and is huge in the mix.

[154]

The Dead Cross live clips look fun for what it is, but the 3 part FNM-like harmonies kill it for me. Barbershop quartet at the wrong gig..