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BUT I STILL WANT TO INTERN.. PLEASE?

Postby rippy on Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:45 pm

I have scoured the Electrical Audio forum for information on Interning. So far, I learned that you only take a handful of people a year and they must need school credit for it. I'm an engineer currently at a studio in New York but, I just put in my two weeks. I'm going back to Phoenix to continue with my home studio.

Here is the question...

I graduated from The Conservatory of Recording Arts & Sciences and completed my internship last year at the same studio I'm currently at. Is their anyway I can still intern at EA? I don't care how long of a duration, what type of work I have to do, where I sleep, any of that. I have the funds to stay unemployed for another year and no other obligations in life. When people talk about the "fly on the wall".. I AM THAT FLY. I would just love the opportunity to possibly learn from Steve and everyone at EA. I can and will do whatever it takes to make it happen.. or am I shit out of luck?

I see the staff has quite a few CRAS alumni, help a brother out! ha

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Re: BUT I STILL WANT TO INTERN.. PLEASE?

Postby spacebar on Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:14 pm

Hey Zack,

Please bear with me, as it's a little weird having this conversation on the message board.

Thanks for writing, and glad you're interested. Sorry it's taken a little while for me to respond to you. I'm not in the Intern's Corner as often as I'd like to be (I'm a year behind posting about the garden!).

Sorry to say we can't be of much help to you, receiving academic credit is a requirement for being an intern here.

Ben and I are both graduates of CRAS. No one here has favored Conservatory students, nor have we ever snubbed applicants because they were from so-called "competitor" schools. While I'm sure your call out was light-hearted, I wouldn't recommend it ever again as even a last-ditch effort to get the attention of a prospective employer. :(

Sorry we can't help, but we wish you the best of luck in your development now and in the future.
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Re: BUT I STILL WANT TO INTERN.. PLEASE?

Postby steve on Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:23 pm

FM Spacebar, America's Top-Liked Guy Jon San Paolo didn't mention it, but we've had almost universally bad experiences with interns who weren't part of an academic program at the time of their internship.

It seems like it would be cool to hang out at a studio and watch records being made, but the reality of it is intern obligations are mostly running errands, emptying the trash and moving things from one place to another, and the charm of that wears off pretty quickly. Having a stake in the exercise, like getting school credit or fulfilling a governmental work-study program, seems to be the critical component in making the whole thing worth suffering for the intern.

One thing to consider is that as a competent engineer, you can always bring a freelance client here on a session to see the place and try it out, and as a bonus you'd get paid for it.
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Re: BUT I STILL WANT TO INTERN.. PLEASE?

Postby airloom on Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:19 pm

+1

The interns I used to accept from rock and roll school used to shout "more bass broseph!!" from the back of the room. Oooh oooh oooh. One grabbed an amp off the bench that had no tubes in it and turned it on.
I don't really do "interns" anymore, save for special occasions.
The last unpaid "intern" I had was training someone how to solder and do small repairs so I could hire them in the future.
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Re: BUT I STILL WANT TO INTERN.. PLEASE?

Postby rippy on Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:01 pm

Thank you guys for taking the time to respond.

Spacebar, Thank you for your advice. However embarrassing, I'm glad I learned that lesson... ha

Steve, that thought never even crossed my mind. Hopefully I can make it happen sooner than later.

airloom, I laughed out loud, point made.

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Re: BUT I STILL WANT TO INTERN.. PLEASE?

Postby alice on Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:21 am

Thanks Greg. That sounds like some solid advice. I've been on the receiving end of "too helpful" enough to follow what you're saying.
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