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Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:24 pm
by Luzwei
Tommy wrote:
Redline wrote:Why is everybody selling their EGC guitars...?

And please don't blame President Obama.


Sometimes people simply need money. They have a good resale value and move pretty easily. I've personally sold a 1975 Minimoog Model D and a 1960 Tremolux because I needed the money. Not because I wanted to sell them.


If you need money, then you're losing money taking it out of the shop. You buy one new, when you're selling it, you're losing money. This notion that people are selling them because they have resale value is a half truth. Yeah, because of long lead times, they are easily movable but you're still not getting your full share and you end up with less money in the end.

If you're moving a used one that you bought second hand, then yeah.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:54 pm
by blackmarket
Luzwei wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Redline wrote:Why is everybody selling their EGC guitars...?

And please don't blame President Obama.


Sometimes people simply need money. They have a good resale value and move pretty easily. I've personally sold a 1975 Minimoog Model D and a 1960 Tremolux because I needed the money. Not because I wanted to sell them.


If you need money, then you're losing money taking it out of the shop. You buy one new, when you're selling it, you're losing money. This notion that people are selling them because they have resale value is a half truth. Yeah, because of long lead times, they are easily movable but you're still not getting your full share and you end up with less money in the end.

If you're moving a used one that you bought second hand, then yeah.


This all depends on when you bought it. EGCs used to be ~$2K IIRC. They are now $3k and above.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:00 pm
by Luzwei
blackmarket wrote:
Luzwei wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Redline wrote:Why is everybody selling their EGC guitars...?

And please don't blame President Obama.


Sometimes people simply need money. They have a good resale value and move pretty easily. I've personally sold a 1975 Minimoog Model D and a 1960 Tremolux because I needed the money. Not because I wanted to sell them.


If you need money, then you're losing money taking it out of the shop. You buy one new, when you're selling it, you're losing money. This notion that people are selling them because they have resale value is a half truth. Yeah, because of long lead times, they are easily movable but you're still not getting your full share and you end up with less money in the end.

If you're moving a used one that you bought second hand, then yeah.


This all depends on when you bought it. EGCs used to be ~$2K IIRC. They are now $3k and above.


Yes sir. I paid mine 1650$ + shipping to Croatia. I bought it from a shop somewhere in Wisconsin, if IIRC. They were the first distributors. I can say that I sold mine with a profit, but not much. Let's say I broke even.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:20 am
by elisha wiesner
Not sure if I already posted this here or not but I think another thing is that we're all very clued into the used EGC market. Links to ones for sale show up here and on facebook regularly. I'm probably aware of most of them that turn up used and I'm sure a lot of people here are. I'm sure there are plenty of guitar players who are literally never aware when one if for sale. Likewise, if you were super into original 1960's Mosrties or early 80's Charvels or whatever, you'd probably see most of those that show for up sale.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 10:25 am
by Tommy
Luzwei wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Redline wrote:Why is everybody selling their EGC guitars...?

And please don't blame President Obama.


Sometimes people simply need money. They have a good resale value and move pretty easily. I've personally sold a 1975 Minimoog Model D and a 1960 Tremolux because I needed the money. Not because I wanted to sell them.


If you need money, then you're losing money taking it out of the shop. You buy one new, when you're selling it, you're losing money. This notion that people are selling them because they have resale value is a half truth. Yeah, because of long lead times, they are easily movable but you're still not getting your full share and you end up with less money in the end.

If you're moving a used one that you bought second hand, then yeah.


My point WASN'T that people were making money on them, it was that if one is in need of money they are easily liquid. It's a good way to sell only one thing and still end up with $2k+.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:52 am
by Luzwei
Good point. I know. That's why I wrote just below that: If you're moving a used one that you bought second hand, then yeah.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 4:03 pm
by wellbutrin
Redline wrote:Why is everybody selling their EGC guitars...?

And please don't blame President Obama.


I think Trey, Ben and Elisha are all correct.

I will say that it surprises me a little when people pay what i assume are relatively high sums of money and sometimes wait years for an awesome looking custom, then decide they don't like it and sell it after a few weeks/months. It's not so much the money aspect of it as everyone's financial situation and spending habits differ but the amount of wait time endured to then turn around and sell raises my eyebrows a little. This is mainly based on the facebook group often alluded to here. I think that part of it is that the guitars just look so fucking badass on the internet that people have almost unreasonable expectations that the guitar will somehow change their guitar playing world, as opposed to just being a different (albeit amazing) flavor. When they realize that there is a little tradeoff (at-times quirky tuning, at-times quirky weight/weight distribution) they don't handle it too well.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:03 pm
by simsimma
Hi Guys, I put a deposit down on an EGC bass in Feb and just paid off the remaining balance last month, I'm beyond excited. Does anyone know what the usual wait time has been lately? I'm mentally preparing myself for a year wait but secretly hoping I may get it sooner than that. What's everyone else's experience been like after placing the order? Kevin and Hillary have been beyond great anytime I've talked to them so I figured I would ask everyone here what to brace myself for instead of bugging them. Thanks in advance!

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:28 pm
by codetocontra
I have something on order that I don't know if I will keep for a few reasons. Original quote was way quicker than the 2 years it has taken so far. Projects and approach have changed in that time. Besides the creative aspects, it could simply not be comfortable. We will see I guess.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:20 pm
by skoz
benadrian wrote: but due to thing like electrical noise in my house, and lack of a wang bar, I tend to grab other guitars first when playing at home.


That is an interesting comment. My 2 EGCs a wood body with humbuckers and all metal with single coils are dead silent in terms of grounding/buzz.

I don’t play my 27.5 that much mostly due to weight issues and I don’t feel like tuning down to B all that often. I play the 25.1 more than any other guitar it’s just fantastic. Both sound totally amazing and would not be replaceable if I had to sell them.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:25 pm
by weezy
The TB2000 I owned in the '90s was ditched pretty quickly because I remember not jiving with it for some reason.

Last year I snagged one of the TB500 basses, and figured out the prob. I don't really like the TB neck spec, i.e. a tad too thick profile and the zero neck radius. That bass went off to Sweden, partially traded for a Ric 3001 (which eventually ended up going to FM Mason).

I got one of the EGC Fender spec bolt on bass necks, which has a standard radius/profile etc. and that thing is a keeper. Unless they start making them lighter, because it neck dives like a fucker.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:33 pm
by Boombats
wellbutrin wrote:
Redline wrote:Why is everybody selling their EGC guitars...?

And please don't blame President Obama.


I think Trey, Ben and Elisha are all correct.

I will say that it surprises me a little when people pay what i assume are relatively high sums of money and sometimes wait years for an awesome looking custom, then decide they don't like it and sell it after a few weeks/months. It's not so much the money aspect of it as everyone's financial situation and spending habits differ but the amount of wait time endured to then turn around and sell raises my eyebrows a little. This is mainly based on the facebook group often alluded to here. I think that part of it is that the guitars just look so fucking badass on the internet that people have almost unreasonable expectations that the guitar will somehow change their guitar playing world, as opposed to just being a different (albeit amazing) flavor. When they realize that there is a little tradeoff (at-times quirky tuning, at-times quirky weight/weight distribution) they don't handle it too well.

I think this is all correct.

I was in my local big-but-not-mega music store some years back and there was a clutch of cooing dudes around the counter. A customer's back-ordered Rickenbacker had just come in after about a 3 year wait and they were ceremoniously unboxing it. All the shop cats and another customer or two were googoo gaga over this thing, I forget which model but semi-hollow and expenseevo for sure, but the buyer was relatively blasé or at least acting so. As I was heading out of the store I heard him say something to the effect of "yeah it's nice but I think I'm gonna sell it and order something else." :shock: Dude hadn't even picked it up out of the case yet! :roll: I can see how one's tastes and needs could change after such a long wait time, but it seems impractical to buy something if there's a chance you might get cancer and die before it arrives.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:59 pm
by numberthirty
One guy's take...

Over the years, I've had a gear related conversation with my brother as well as a couple of "Gear" inclined friends.

The gist is something like "There is a pretty good case to be made against holding onto a rare/moderately(and on up) priced piece of gear if it could probably wind up being something that another player/person who records would be using almost every day."

At least a couple of folks I know have seemed to feel that way.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:43 am
by benadrian
skoz wrote:
benadrian wrote: but due to thing like electrical noise in my house, and lack of a wang bar, I tend to grab other guitars first when playing at home.


That is an interesting comment. My 2 EGCs a wood body with humbuckers and all metal with single coils are dead silent in terms of grounding/buzz.


My house has old wiring and a lot of EMF noise. Any guitar with single coils is noisy as hell here. It's much better at both my practice space and at work, which both have more modern wiring. It's no fault of the guitar.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:46 am
by elisha wiesner
benadrian wrote:
My house has old wiring and a lot of EMF noise. Any guitar with single coils is noisy as hell here. It's much better at both my practice space and at work, which both have more modern wiring. It's no fault of the guitar.


Ben, the electro-harmonix Hum Debugger pretty much does what it says it does. Well worth it if you have a place with noisy wiring for single coils.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:57 pm
by Anitrak
I was waiting for Kevin to make the announcement on here but it looks like EGC will be moving to Birmingham. Looking forward to seeing the changes from the move:

Quick heads up. All bolt necks are complete. There are quite a few extras made on purpose if anyone should want one. Orders have been shipping and will continue to ship for about a week and half based on the schedule. Just an update and again thank you. Also all anodize has been received, except gold.
Ps. We are moving to Birmingham, Alabama. It’s quite a beautiful city with an amazing machining background and for what I’m going to do, this is the only way to do it.
As always a thank you all and me best to you on this Friday.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:14 am
by Riff Magnum
weezy wrote:The TB2000 I owned in the '90s was ditched pretty quickly because I remember not jiving with it for some reason.

Last year I snagged one of the TB500 basses, and figured out the prob. I don't really like the TB neck spec, i.e. a tad too thick profile and the zero neck radius. That bass went off to Sweden, partially traded for a Ric 3001 (which eventually ended up going to FM Mason).

I got one of the EGC Fender spec bolt on bass necks, which has a standard radius/profile etc. and that thing is a keeper. Unless they start making them lighter, because it neck dives like a fucker.



My bassist just got one of the new TB500s and the neck is bowed. Seems there's problems with most that have been made. I guess the shorter scale and lighter (hollow?) neck has some drawbacks. It got worse the longer he had it. After a month of strings on it, any fretted note was out of tune. Serious bummer. I guess Kevin is gonna try to bend it back :shock: Don't like the sound of that. Maybe reforge it with a different alloy.
It sounded great though.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:27 am
by llllllllllllllllllllllll
To continue the discussion above, sometimes super custom options don’t always work out.

For example, I always liked Teles, Bigsby’s, and old Dynasonic pickups, especially those that came in old Kustom and Martin electrics. I had a guitar that combined all three, with the pickups being made by TV Jones. It just kind of sucked! I had all sorts of work done to it and it was never quite right. It did not help that the pickups had modifications to make them more palatable to modern players, which I felt took the edge off of the sound.

Anyways, I parted it out and got my money back. I could see someone spending a boatload on they imagine being the perfect guitar and it not turning out to be quite what they expected. There’s something to be said about instruments that have been R&D’d over time rather than just coming up with something from a loose collection of specs. But they might never have the mystique of a one of a kind instrument that some people here have dreamed up.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:05 am
by the finger genius
Does anyone on here have a polished aluminum finish? Do you guys clean / polish it or just let it go? Can I (should I?) get this to eventually look like an old cymbal, or is it just going to be forever smudgy? I didn't realize what a greasy motherfucker I am.

Re: Electrical Guitar Company

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:15 pm
by Redline
the finger genius wrote:Does anyone on here have a polished aluminum finish? Do you guys clean / polish it or just let it go? Can I (should I?) get this to eventually look like an old cymbal, or is it just going to be forever smudgy? I didn't realize what a greasy motherfucker I am.

Embrace the smudge...

Or just clean it, it takes 30 seconds...