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Postby Marsupialized on Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:19 pm

She's simply an idiot, there's not much conversation to be had beyond that
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Postby i am the smud on Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:01 pm

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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby Evin Relocation on Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:55 pm

https://medium.com/@amandapalmer/no-i-a ... a75cb0f938

I read this as "Taylor Swift won't return my phone calls!"
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Postby garthplinko on Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:18 pm

There's no way I hate myself enough today to read anything from her.

Tomorrow maybe, but not today.
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Postby total_douche on Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:49 pm

I think a lot of artists take themselves way too seriously and need to cultivate some kind of mythos around themselves. I don't know that it's necessarily narcissistic, maybe they just find reality boring. And I'm not certain how that applies here, or if it does at all. It's a thought that comes out of the back of my head when I read bits and pieces of that article, or anything about her, really, like I feel like the concept is hiding in the background somewhere, a subtext. It's the same feeling I get when reading about Kurt Cobain's revisionist history ("Ain't Got No How Watchamacallit" became "God is Gay").

People with kids still manage to pursue their passions all the time. That she chooses to remain blind to that because of the world she grew up in (or how she perceived the world she grew up in) says more about her than the rest of the universe, that is, maybe she's a tad stunted in the emotional department. I get that. I am, sometimes, too*. A lot of artists are.

Did that make sense? No? Well, my thought-to-speech converter has always been broken (*See? My previous statement rings true!), so meh!
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Postby VaticanShotglass on Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:45 pm

Evin Relocation wrote:https://medium.com/@amandapalmer/no-i-am-not-crowdfunding-this-baby-an-open-letter-to-a-worried-fan-9ca75cb0f938

I read this as "Taylor Swift won't return my phone calls!"


I don't find Palmer very insightful here, but the worst part of this article is that fan's letter. The whole thing comes off as ignorant (I mean real people have handled making art, surviving, and having kids, without Palmer's Oddessy of of ego shilling). But that fan is offensively wrong headed.

Maybe I don't get it. I guess I'm not a romantic.
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Postby dontfeartheringo on Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:56 pm

I think if you make your stock-in-trade the costumes, dramatics, and hysterical foofery of the neurasthenic ex-musical actress set, you get cut with your own knife here.

"I need you to NEED ME."

"WE NEED YOU!"

"Oh, hey, babytime. kthxbye!"

"WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US???"
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Postby geiginni on Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:45 pm

She's no different than most middle-Americans at squandering resources and bitching about it. Much like the poor shitkicker on the gulf coast, bitching about BP screwing them over as they fill their fucking octo-cab, six wheel, Dodge Hemi manchild truck with 200 bucks worth of gas.
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Postby Evin Relocation on Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:48 pm

geiginni wrote:She's no different than most middle-Americans at squandering resources and bitching about it. Much like the poor shitkicker on the gulf coast, bitching about BP screwing them over as they fill their fucking octo-cab, six wheel, Dodge Hemi manchild truck with 200 bucks worth of gas.


How does this one hold up? Was said shitkicker given TONS AND TONS of money in support before buying gas?

And as a Gulf Coaster: Fuck BP.
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Postby sulfur)addict on Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:53 pm

I want to shake the hand of the person who asked Amanda Palmer if her baby was a GoFundMe scheme.

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Postby Boombats on Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:28 pm

Just wait til the baby upstages her! Clapton time.
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Postby thuggyBear on Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:01 am

I love Neil Gaiman just a little bit less for being married to her.

Probably should read all of Sandman again.
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Postby VaticanShotglass on Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:46 pm

dontfeartheringo wrote:I think if you make your stock-in-trade the costumes, dramatics, and hysterical foofery of the neurasthenic ex-musical actress set, you get cut with your own knife here.

"I need you to NEED ME."

"WE NEED YOU!"

"Oh, hey, babytime. kthxbye!"

"WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US???"


I guess you reap what you sew.
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Postby johnnyshape on Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:47 am

So Amanda Palmer has recorded an EP of Bowie covers. "Part of the proceeds" from the first MONTH of sales will go to a cancer charity.

http://pitchfork.com/news/63321-listen- ... nna-calvi/

But it's OK! She won't be out of pocket. She won't have to give a thing herself.
Because she didn't use her own money to do it, oh no. She had the begging bowl out for that: https://www.patreon.com/amandapalmer?ty=h
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Postby Anthony Flack on Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:40 am

And here's the PRF recording a tribute to a different artist every month funded with nothing and released for free. However do we survive without that Paetron cash.
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Postby Nico Adie on Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:09 am

johnnyshape wrote:So Amanda Palmer has recorded an EP of Bowie covers. "Part of the proceeds" from the first MONTH of sales will go to a cancer charity.

http://pitchfork.com/news/63321-listen- ... nna-calvi/

But it's OK! She won't be out of pocket. She won't have to give a thing herself.
Because she didn't use her own money to do it, oh no. She had the begging bowl out for that: https://www.patreon.com/amandapalmer?ty=h


"Yeah, it's a charity called Cancer America Surviviors Helpline. Yeah, just abbreviate the name on the cheque, thanks"
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby VaticanShotglass on Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:16 pm

Anthony Flack wrote:And here's the PRF recording a tribute to a different artist every month funded with nothing and released for free. However do we survive without that Paetron cash.


Your packaging is . . . Lacking. The expression of a true artist can't be contained so simply.
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Postby Clyde on Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:22 pm

Part of the money will go to Bowie's publisher, while the remaining proceeds from the first month of sales will be donated to the cancer research wing of the Tufts Medical Center in memory of Bowie.


Can anybody explain the bolded to me? Is Bowie's publisher being greedy or did AFP decide she needed to throw a couple bucks their way?

That "first month of sales" bit though. Pretty chintzy, dude.
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Postby dontfeartheringo on Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:52 pm

Clyde wrote:
Part of the money will go to Bowie's publisher, while the remaining proceeds from the first month of sales will be donated to the cancer research wing of the Tufts Medical Center in memory of Bowie.


Can anybody explain the bolded to me? Is Bowie's publisher being greedy or did AFP decide she needed to throw a couple bucks their way?

That "first month of sales" bit though. Pretty chintzy, dude.



That's how publishing works. I write a song, you record a version of it, I get the publishing royalties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty_p ... _royalties

The "first month of sales" bit is galling. This is revenue harvesting disguised as charitable works. Especially rich considering the source.
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Postby Clyde on Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:07 pm

Yeah, I guess my question was something more along the lines of:
how easy it it to get publisher's to forgo their cut when the proceeds are going to charity? Is it standard or a big deal? I wonder as well if they might have been more willing to give up their share if the AFP had committed to giving all profits to charity, not just the first month's?
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