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Postby mazacultura on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:08 am

noise&light wrote:I get that people have problems with the way that she uses her nudity although I have no idea how givemeenoughrope is getting the images that he says are appearing daily. Maybe you need to adjust your email filters there.


Not daily, as I recall. At least weekly. To follow up on my thought from earlier, her ability to make tits on Twitter a blase event was kind of transgressive its own way. It's like, "right, they're just boobs. It really isn't such a big deal. How about that."

Also, add me to the list of penis creatures[*] who notices the misogynistic undercurrent here and in the PRF on the whole.

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Postby Bernardo on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:08 am

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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby Ptommydski on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:09 am

steve wrote:
Ptommydski wrote:it's not personally my thing but other people seem to be having fun so have at it.

This applies to basically everything on earth short of somebody setting fire to your house. No point in forming opinions on the way people do things, trying to figure out which ways are gross and stupid and which are honorable, no point in giving a shit about anything at all really.

Other than a house fire it's all pretty easy to ignore.

The point was made regarding her occasional nudity during performances and/or personal grooming habits etc. There's not really a sensible ethical objection to that, at least not here in 2012.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby Ernest on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:01 am

There is no ethical objection, at least from me, about her performances by themselves, but that coupled with her financial squandering (that's the nicest I can put it), her performance underlines how much of a spectacle the entire thing is, in the worst way possible. Her fame, or whatever you want to call it.

On the background of this sleaziest major label mindset where even an enormous sum is written off as the expense necessary to create art, her schtick comes off as the most decadent this side of the Kardashians. It's gross, and it's not because of her tits. It's more the irony coupled with this showmanship. I would say the same thing about men, but unfortunately, men doing this is actually far more commonplace given that men are typically the decadent pieces of shit by virtue of it being a man's game. It doesn't make her any less of target that she has her ovaries to push aside the criticism as simply sexist.

You can do a lot, for a lot of people with 1.2 million. What the hell?
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Postby treasuretech on Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:14 am

Neil Gaiman's family are Scientologists. Neil maintains he is not a Scientologist and there has been some speculation that he is allowed 'special consideration' in light of who he is and who his family are. That's pretty damn rare.

Even if they are, as maintained, not members of the CoS, I'd be wondering whether they really are flat bust or whether a little of the old Scientological money-grubbery is, at least, influencing this. The mentality seems similar - just keep paying out the arse for your 'enlightenment', 'art', or whatever.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby numberthirty on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:22 am

amelia wrote:
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Man, identity politics are frustrating. Toss your tits out but don't look.


Honestly, part of me is more insulted at her stage persona than her blatant use of free labor.


I KNEW I was right. See, your hostility is based on her being free with her body/nudity. I WIN!


(disclaimer: I'm totally joking with E)


While I'm not one of the women who post here, I think you need to take a look at what you're saying. You call a woman out on being topless. Think back to MK I Danzig. Those fools were topless quite often. Of all the shots I've seen people take at him/them, I can't ever recall someone mentioning anything like what you've said about Amanda Palmer. Same goes for grandad muscle Joe Perry running around with his shirt off.

I'm not going to give anyone shit about it. I just thought it was worth pointing out.
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Postby numberthirty on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:33 am

noise&light wrote:I get that people have problems with the way that she uses her nudity although I have no idea how givemeenoughrope is getting the images that he says are appearing daily. Maybe you need to adjust your email filters there.


Is he talking about the Kickstarter updates? I went in on it and the photos in those updates can get a little racy.

Again, I actually think the packaging on the discs may be worth something in the fifteen dollar range. I'll have to post a description once I've got it in front of me.
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Postby zom-zom on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:15 am

Man, her crap isn't Goth.

Some of you have very malformed ideas of what Goth is.
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Postby johnnyshape on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:23 am

zom-zom wrote:Man, her crap isn't Goth.

Some of you have very malformed ideas of what Goth is.


Give us the Goth, zom.

Tell us the truth.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby zom-zom on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:24 am

It's too sad. You cannot handle the horrible sadness.
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Postby Maurice on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:30 am

zom-zom wrote:It's too sad. You cannot handle the Infinite sadness.

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Postby tbone on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:01 am

If Steve ever wants to branch out and diversify his income a little bit beyond the recording studio, he should start up an online butcher shop called STEVE ALBINI'S INTERNET BEEF.
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Postby Anitrak on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:07 am

tbone wrote:If Steve ever wants to branch out and diversify his income a little bit beyond the recording studio, he should start up an online butcher shop called STEVE ALBINI'S INTERNET BEEF.


Steve knows what he's talking about when it comes to high quality grilling and deli meats. I would buy from the SAIB as long as he could guarantee next day delivery and the prices were reasonable.
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Postby Luzwei on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:33 am

tbone wrote:STEVE ALBINI'S INTERNET BEEF.


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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby johnnyshape on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:55 am

STEVE ALBINI'S INTERNET BEEF

Grill 'em! Fuckin' grill 'em!™
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Postby Maurice on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:59 am

johnnyshape wrote:STEVE ALBINI'S INTERNET BEEF

Grill 'em! Fuckin' grill 'em!™

Outstanding.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby tbone on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:03 am

Steve, I think you have to do this. And give me a finder's fee for coming up with the idea. All I need is $1.2million, which apparently is pretty easy to piss through and not a lot of money.
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Postby BusBus on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:09 am

Maurice wrote:
johnnyshape wrote:STEVE ALBINI'S INTERNET BEEF

Grill 'em! Fuckin' grill 'em!™

Outstanding.


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Postby numberthirty on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:13 am

zom-zom wrote:It's too sad. You cannot handle the horrible sadness.


Great. Now, I'll be flashing back to issues of Propaganda magazine all day.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby jeff_fox on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:49 am

this thread is fucked.

In one instance people are called sexist for talking about wanting to see titties and vagina...and in another case they're sexist for calling out this hack for using her titties and vagina to sell her subpar, creatively bankrupt music. what the fuck.
And to imply that we've been any more vicious towards this joke of a performer than we are towards your typical shitty entertainer (especially the kickstarter beggars)? give me a fucking break.
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