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Solo: Drum

Postby kazoozak on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:44 am

I searched for drum solo on c/nc, no dice, Kerble if you must.

So let's settle it- Is the drum solo (in any genre of music) an embarrassingly unnecessary onanism, or does it kick ass in all the right places? In its defense, I cite Billy Cobham and Keith Moon- in its attack, I cite Neil Peart solely for that godawful break in that live version of YYZ that takes up half of the entire video runtime. You all know the one I'm talking about.

Feel free to cite examples backing your answer.
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Re: Solo: Drum

Postby Benny on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:55 am

kazoozak wrote:embarrassingly unnecessary onanism


even the good ones - like this one - from the good drummers have this something slightly 'wrong' thing with them. maybe because not other players are doing anything.

same thing for bass solos. esception: the who's my generation.
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Re: Solo: Drum

Postby world of pee on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:15 am

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Benny wrote:even the good ones - like this one - from the good drummers have this something slightly 'wrong' thing with them. maybe because not other players are doing anything.


i prefer drum solos where the other players are doing stuff.

off my head, some examples:

wipeout
tool -- 46 & 2
laundry -- stitch
primus -- the duchess and the proverbial mind spread
mcgill manring stevens -- that one song with the slowly accelerating drum rolll
dave brubeck quartet -- take five


also, jazz songs where they trade 4s or trade 8s or whatever -- those bite-size drum solos rule.

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Postby simmo on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:26 am

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Postby Edd Tastyhead on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:51 am

When kept short and sweet thy can be great. They're usually crap though.
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Postby skatingbasser on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:52 am

Can be done right, but usually isn't. Like with any instrument's solo, other instruments still need to be playing.

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Postby world of pee on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:58 am

skatingbasser wrote:Like with any instrument's solo, other instruments still need to be playing.


yeah, notice how when a guitar solos unaccompanied it often sucks -- see heartbreaker.
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Postby yaledelay on Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:59 am

the song is king, if it fits the song, it belongs there, if it dosent take it out...
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Re: Solo: Drum

Postby johnnyshape on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:29 pm

world of pee wrote:
also, jazz songs where they trade 4s or trade 8s or whatever -- those bite-size drum solos rule.


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Postby iembalm on Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:38 pm

world of pee wrote:
skatingbasser wrote:Like with any instrument's solo, other instruments still need to be playing.


yeah, notice how when a guitar solos unaccompanied it often sucks -- see heartbreaker.

Indeed. The best part of the Heartbreaker solo is actually when the band kicks back in.
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Postby japmn on Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:19 pm

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2 measure limit!

all else is crap
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Postby Argyreia Nervosa on Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:49 pm

Take a page from the book of Ringo.

Less is more when it comes to "drum solos".

I prefer drummers who solo the whole song (a bit like Damon Che) or not at all

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Re: Solo: Drum

Postby SecondEdition on Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:29 pm

The best drum solo ever in the history of rock and roll is the one on Rod Stewart's version of "(I Know) I'm Losing You". Kenney Jones' finest recorded moment. Incredible. It works so well because it actually fits within the framework of the song.

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Postby cesb on Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:50 pm

I never want to hear any rock song interupted in order to showcase some chuke's wicked chops. Though, it could be pretty funny if done in jest, I guess.

I have no problem with somebody horsing around a bit within the context of the song, turning the beat around, playing in the "wrong" time, etc. Bill Bruford's playing for the 70s king Crimson comes to mind.
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Postby world of pee on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:00 pm

Argyreia Nervosa wrote:Take a page from the book of Ringo.

Less is more when it comes to "drum solos".

ringo's drum solo on abbey road sucks.
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Postby Boombats on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:01 pm

Roeder's solo at the end of last Friday's Neurosis show was nothing to sneeze at. NC
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Postby Argyreia Nervosa on Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:36 pm

world of pee wrote:
Argyreia Nervosa wrote:Take a page from the book of Ringo.

Less is more when it comes to "drum solos".

ringo's drum solo on abbey road sucks.


Exactly and it was the only one of his entire career with the Beatles. Ringo despised drum solos, and so should you!
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Postby eliya on Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:35 pm

Guitar is the only instrument that can go on solo without having the other instruments stop playing. At least in rock music. Guitar can have a solo while the other ints are still playing and keeping the same level (of volume). That's making Guitar solos less crap and in many cases not crap.

Drum solos are showing off.
I mean, I like playing drums, it's a great instrument, but it's a rhythmical instrument you can't play notes, unless you have billion drums in your kit. So even the most complicated/interesting rhythm, won't be that interesting without any other melodic instruments. So when there's a drum solo it's usually to give the drummer the last chance to get the girls.
I like listening to drums when they're in a context.
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Postby Edd Tastyhead on Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:17 pm

Even Keith Moon thought drum solos were a bunch of wank. If only someone had told Bonzo...
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