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Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

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Fugazi
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The Jesus Lizard
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50%
 
Total votes : 426

Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby lewdjaw on Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:28 pm

I love TJL. They were sure as hell more fun. Humorous without being stupid. I listen to them more than Fugazi these days. They had better chops. Goat/Liar/Down was one hell of a run.

But Fugazi, not a bad record after Repeater. Great live even if it wasn't exactly a party. Progressed throughout their career. Quit on a high point. Plus, you have to consider the extra-musical element of how they operated at a time when bands were trying as hard as they could to whore themselves out.

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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby dontfeartheringo on Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:24 pm

What's it going to take to get Fugazi to play shows again? Man, do we need that band now.
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby Redline on Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:05 pm

it's a tie

My allegiance lies with:

Fugazi
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50%
The Jesus Lizard
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Total votes : 416
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby travis k on Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:54 pm

Fugazi will play again in 2024. I made this clear recently in TJL thread when I couldn't get tickets because of bots/internet/contemporary consumption and had my little hissy fit.
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby emmanuelle cunt on Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:57 am

294-294.

I can't vote, so I guess I have done it in the past, but I don't remember how I voted, goddman. I hope it was TJL.
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby Sprague Dawley on Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:13 am

Very internet-proud to break the tie in favour of JL, cannot believe this one is so close, Fugazi, apart from some of The Argument lp, have not aged well for me. After having thrashed both bands to death over the last 30 years or so it's Overwrought funless tinpot squall vs Chunderdome Churn Concrete Mixer Sound From Heaven
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby jakethesnake on Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:36 am

Jesus Lizard wins fairly easily to me. Fugazi are (were?) a great band but their music is dry and anemic, anthemic and preachy, dour and a bit dull. TJL were, if only for a few years, perfect rock'n'roll...
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby M.H on Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:10 am

Whenever I recommend the Lizard to newbies, I always push Goat and Liar, never anything else. And I really dig Down and Shot.

Those are two phenomenal albums, some of the best rock music ever. But there's a clear peak where those musicians mastered what they were doing. This puts them in the top 5 percentiles of bands - but that was as far as they went.

But every person I introduce to Fugazi gets a different recommendation. Most of the time I tell people to listen to the whole catalogue. (I personally feel they did taper off a little bit at the end, but nowhere near to the extent of the Lizard.) There's very few bands who were that good for that long.

BTW, all the criticism of Fugazi being po-faced and preachy: there's plenty of emotionally devastating songs (esp 'Shut The Door') that deal with the human consequences and tragedy of what they opposed in interviews (though not, thank god, directly in their lyrics). They were never like Earth Crisis or Crass or Youth Of Today with their message. They respected their listeners' intelligence and the music always came first. And that’s why they win.
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby Limmo on Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:33 pm

i like two or three of fugazi's songs so i guess fugazi
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Re: Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

Postby Defender on Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:11 pm

jesus lizard, eazy
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