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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby AAAAAAAARGH on Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:57 am

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gaetano wrote:I really don't get these people. The phrasing is just weak, the "flow" (whatever) is amateurish at best. They say some offensive stuff, so what? 99% of other hip-hop acts do the very same thing.

Don't believe the hype!




if you don't like it fine, but odd future have been doing their thing way before you gave a fuck and they'll continue doing it long after.


"Don't believe the hype" is the title of a song by a hip-hop band called Public Enemy.

Nah, forget it, nevermind.


I think I've heard of that song! Actually, I think I've heard it hundreds of times, but thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby dontfeartheringo on Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:11 pm

I bring up a female music-industry pal who bristles at the rape references in the group’s lyrics, and Hodgy fires back: “That’s because she probably had that ass tapped before, that’s why. Bitch, fuck her. Nigga, we rap about what we wanna rap about. If she don’t like it, fuck her.”


http://hightimes.com/lounge/ht_admin/7201

Real revolutionaries there, boy. Yessir.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Boombats on Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:52 pm

dontfeartheringo wrote:
I bring up a female music-industry pal who bristles at the rape references in the group’s lyrics, and Hodgy fires back: “That’s because she probably had that ass tapped before, that’s why. Bitch, fuck her. Nigga, we rap about what we wanna rap about. If she don’t like it, fuck her.”


http://hightimes.com/lounge/ht_admin/7201

Real revolutionaries there, boy. Yessir.

No Patrick, you just don't get it dogg. That shit is swag. Swagger, even. These punk rock kids are reinventing music, right there. I go to law school and I get it.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Luzwei on Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:04 am

Boombats wrote:
dontfeartheringo wrote:
I bring up a female music-industry pal who bristles at the rape references in the group’s lyrics, and Hodgy fires back: “That’s because she probably had that ass tapped before, that’s why. Bitch, fuck her. Nigga, we rap about what we wanna rap about. If she don’t like it, fuck her.”


http://hightimes.com/lounge/ht_admin/7201

Real revolutionaries there, boy. Yessir.

No Patrick, you just don't get it dogg. That shit is swag. Swagger, even. These punk rock kids are reinventing music, right there. I go to law school and I get it.


Just a small quote for the article:

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Antero on Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:27 am

Boombats wrote:
dontfeartheringo wrote:
I bring up a female music-industry pal who bristles at the rape references in the group’s lyrics, and Hodgy fires back: “That’s because she probably had that ass tapped before, that’s why. Bitch, fuck her. Nigga, we rap about what we wanna rap about. If she don’t like it, fuck her.”


http://hightimes.com/lounge/ht_admin/7201

Real revolutionaries there, boy. Yessir.

No Patrick, you just don't get it dogg. That shit is swag. Swagger, even. These punk rock kids are reinventing music, right there. I go to law school and I get it.

Man just 'cause I got better taste in rap than you doesn't mean you gotta hate.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Boombats on Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:02 am

Antero wrote:
Boombats wrote:
dontfeartheringo wrote:
I bring up a female music-industry pal who bristles at the rape references in the group’s lyrics, and Hodgy fires back: “That’s because she probably had that ass tapped before, that’s why. Bitch, fuck her. Nigga, we rap about what we wanna rap about. If she don’t like it, fuck her.”


http://hightimes.com/lounge/ht_admin/7201

Real revolutionaries there, boy. Yessir.

No Patrick, you just don't get it dogg. That shit is swag. Swagger, even. These punk rock kids are reinventing music, right there. I go to law school and I get it.

Man just 'cause I got better taste in rap than you doesn't mean you gotta hate.

I think your taste has been burned out by all the hot sauce you put on your fried chicken when you were trying to keep it real, son.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Bambouche on Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:07 pm

I wrote a rather long article outlining rap's alliance with conservatism. Odd Future gets several column inches. I won't take up space repeating it here, but if you're interested:

http://rotatestockforfreshness.com/rapublicans/
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Bill Swansea on Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:10 pm

Bambouche wrote:rapublicans/

Come on now.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby steve on Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:02 am

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steve wrote:I spent about 40 minutes with these little pricks at the end of May and I haven't wanted to strangle anybody that much in a real long time.


I am totally curious how you ended up spending even five seconds with any member of Odd Future, let alone forty minutes... Do tell.

My band shared an airport shuttle with them in Barcelona. They piled onto the shuttle late, after finally getting corralled by their minder, who was nursing a head wound with an ice bag wrapped in a towel. They piled in, niggering everything in sight, motherfucking the driver, boasting into the air unbidden about getting their dicks sucked and calling everyone in the area a faggot. Then one of them lit a joint (or a pipe, I didn't look) and told the driver to shut the fuck up nigger and smoked it anyway. A female passenger tried to engage one of them in conversation, but he just stared at her with a dead-to-me stare while his seatmate flipped double birds in her face.

The whole trip they complained about not being at a McDonalds and repeatedly shouted for the motherfucker to pull over so they could get some fucking McDonalds nigger. Interspersed with the McDonalds requests were shouted boasts about how often they masturbated and fucked bitches nigger and got paid like a motherfucker fifty grand like a motherfucker. They continued complaining that the trip was taking too long and insisted they be fed immediately all the way to the airport, where their minder presumably fed them.

I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it.

I am well aware, thanks, that good people can make ugly art and that ugly people can make good art. Ultimately the function of art is to express something and move an idea from one person to another, and the tools of that can include revulsion and discomfort. Having been in a few bands myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as windows into the soul of the creator. Ultimately they are, of course, but not necessarily in the crude autobiographical way they are often interpreted.

I know all that, so I am never quick to judge a person based on a superficial reading of creative output. Peter Sotos is a lovely fellow whom I trust implicitly, despite his writing evoking a truly primal disgust in me, to use another rapey example. Michael Gerald from Killdozer said it best in an interview, when the journalist remarked that he seemed like a nice fellow, which was unexpected given that the characters in his songs are often repellent. "Oh, that's not us," he said, "that's the crazy people we sing about." In that light, I am one hundred percent behind Odd Future's right to rap about what they wanna rap about, and if she don't like it fuck her.

And also fuck me. It's none of my business what they wanna. I'm not part of the audience for hip hop, and as a non-dilettante I don't generally respond to it when I hear it, so I can't make any critical assessment of Odd Future's music on its own terms, but they go out of their way to make it clear that this is not a case of regular people making music about assholes, but assholes making music about being assholes. I have no time for that. I don't respond kindly to it when Ted Nugent does it either.

If the whole thing is a put-on, a bit of Vincent Gallo life-as-theater for the benefit of whoever happens to be sitting next to them, that's no excuse. It's being an asshole about being an asshole.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Dave//Eksvplot on Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:57 am

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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Marsupialized on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:11 am

Rap music is stupid music made by stupid people for stupid people to listen to.
I do not find it hard to believe they were stupid.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby steve on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:18 am

Marsupialized wrote:Rap music is stupid music made by stupid people for stupid people to listen to.
I do not find it hard to believe they were stupid.

I don't think they are stupid. They didn't strike me as stupid anyway. They struck me as little self-satisfied asshole scrubs.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Antero on Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:47 am

Bill Swansea wrote:
Bambouche wrote:rapublicans/

Come on now.

Yea, ouch.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby GrantMcNeilly on Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:15 pm

steve wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:Rap music is stupid music made by stupid people for stupid people to listen to.
I do not find it hard to believe they were stupid.

I don't think they are stupid. They didn't strike me as stupid anyway. They struck me as little self-satisfied asshole scrubs.


Rap is actually the perfect genre for stupid self-satisfied asshole scrubs!
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby steve on Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:18 pm

GrantMcNeilly wrote:Rap is actually the perfect genre for stupid self-satisfied asshole scrubs!

I don't want to paint all rap or rappers with any kind of brush. I'm self-aware enough to know that I'm not in its audience and don't pretend to be, but I don't think people involved in it are any more stupid than other artists, and some of them have proven to be brilliant in one area or another. I don't think Odd Future or their music are stupid. They're probably pretty smart. Smart goes hand-in-hand with cocky, and they're exceptionally cocky.

I just think they're assholes.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby matthewbarnhart on Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:53 pm

They played before Superchunk at Pitchfork. They had the backstage area locked down before and after their set, so's we couldn't setup our gear and whatnot. The P4K staff said, "it's probably for the best to avoid the craziness".
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Bernardo on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:40 pm

Are you in this video?
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby matthewbarnhart on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:42 pm

Bernardo wrote:Are you in this video?


I am the fat guy with glasses, snacking away.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby Bernardo on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:49 pm

My girlfriend waves to the camera at 0:49, on the right, the other people at the exit are friends too, as is the guy filming.

That same day in the afternoon I did sound for a band in the same stage Superchunk played the night before (Mogi), asshole soundguy wouldn't let me use the 421 on toms because he claimed gringo drummer hit it! I missed both shows due to working, btw.
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Re: Collective: Odd Future

Postby matthewbarnhart on Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:52 pm

Bernardo wrote:My girlfriend waves to the camera at 0:49, on the right, the other people at the exit are friends too, as is the guy filming.

That same day in the afternoon I did sound for a band in the same stage Superchunk played the night before (Mogi), asshole soundguy wouldn't let me use the 421 on toms because he claimed gringo drummer hit it! I missed both shows due to working, btw.


Oh man, sorry I missed you!

I don't recall using a 421 on the toms, but I didn't communicate with the local crew very much as 1) I don't speak Portuguese and 2) I was vomiting most of the day due to food poisoning.
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