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Postby bigc on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:53 am

'Starless and Bible Black' and 'Red' are fucking incredible.

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Postby Pure L on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:20 am

i'll confess that although the Adrian Belew stuff is indeed horrible, I like the song "Thela Hun Jinjeet" (sp?)

Bill Bruford's drumming is also nc.
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Postby flippantminister on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:27 pm

belew is a tool. but i like his guitarring. about 50% of the 80s stuff is total pile, but the other 50% makes up for it with its greatness. the bruford era of the 70s also totally and completely not crap. i dug a bit of the double trio, havent heard the newer stuff. 1st album was great, then pretty sketch up until bruford.

overall- totally not crap. i just have to ignore all those crappy years in ordder to say that.
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Postby Ivan Dobsky on Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:01 pm

I suppose this really should be a Robert Frippe crap/not crap though.

The dischordant riffs on Red's opener just rule.

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Postby DefinitelyNOTtheSWEDE on Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:24 pm

I saw the double Trio... it was a good time, though I was pretty much into Crimson too much back then.

Since then, I have found that I really enjoy a great deal of the first record and the Bruford/Wetton periods almost entirely.

The song "Trio" is a great example of improv, more so for the fact that its not just clamorous and dissonant, but pretty and well structured.

I really like the song "Islands" as well, but I am a sucker for somber mellotrons and shit.

Robert Fripps rantings and such were fun for the first few years that he was writing diatribes against his former record labels, but then it just never stopped coming... that and too many self absorbed re-issues for the faithful to have to snap up... I stopped after "The Night Watch" (which was really good, actually).
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Postby Bartok on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:49 am

a close friend said to me "Red is so good that it goes past awesome into shit then back into awesome again, its almost too awesome you know?"

he was right larks and starless are also great. i hate greg lake era crimson.
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Postby Chapter Two on Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:29 pm

Amazingly, I hadn't heard any King Crimson til last year, when my friend lent me Larks Tongues in Aspic. One of my favourite records now without a doubt. On this alone I go not crap. Not sure about the collaboration with the Sunshine Band though...
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Postby Ivan Dobsky on Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:17 am

Chapter Two wrote:Amazingly, I hadn't heard any King Crimson til last
year, when my friend lent me Larks Tongues in Aspic. One of my
favourite records now without a doubt. On this alone I go not crap. Not
sure about the collaboration with the Sunshine Band though...


I'm now trying to picture "That's The Way" with a big proggy freakout
in the middle. I like it.

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Postby rocker654 on Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:52 pm

King Crimson is one band that has traversed genres without wholly subscribing to them. As it should be, their early stuff was the weakest and got stronger over time. Robert Fripp (being the stalwart) is someone who was not destined to be appreciated by the masses, but found a steady following in musicians and appreciation amongst those who enjoy pure musical gymnastics. I must admit that I can appreciate Primus' drummer--sounds like he has to go through a lot of shit.

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Postby Ivan Dobsky on Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:25 am

Early stuff weak?

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Postby rocker654 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:56 pm

Compared to their later output, yes. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.
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Postby Ivan Dobsky on Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:54 am

In King Crimson top trumps, Red is the only card with a riff factor of 10.

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Postby boilermaker on Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:42 pm

Not Crap. I'll also be a Belew defender. Althought the three run albums of LTIA, SABB and red are the best. I do like Discipline very much and have grown to appreciate Belew's input a lot more after seeing tem on various live DVDs and actually seing Belew in a solo context. I certainly don't think Belew's lyrics are worse than Sinfield's or Palmer-James. At least Belew bought a sense of humour to the band which was very absent before. I like the contrast of Belew's wayward sounding guitar with Fripp's precision.

Anyway, I saw Belew in concert a few months ago in Canberra and there were about 50 people there. He was nothing less than gracious and his back up band were stunningly good. He came out afterwards and was quite chatty with the crowd. His latest 3 run of solo albums (Side 1, Side 2 and Side 3) are very good.

I don't like much pre-Larks Tounge except for ITCOTCK. The great Deceiver is skullfuckingly good.

Since Bruford's departure I'm less interested coz I think it is Pat M who is the tool and is far too limited a percussionist; his input drags the others back imo. I really like Trey Gunn's efforts though.
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Postby bourbon on Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:43 am

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Postby Adam CR on Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:47 am

Not as interesting to me as Yes, or Henry Cow but certainly a good distance from CRAP.

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Postby ubercat on Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:51 am

I gotta say, some of the Trilogy era stuff is amazing. Some of it is also total
J.O. Industry, perfomed live, is pretty fucking amazing. Discipline also.

And Robert should be sat on a remote operated wheel chair. Prolly the only
way to animate the guy.

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Postby Antero on Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:33 pm

I don't like most King Crimson stuff.

But.

Red?

Holy fuck.

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Postby UncleLed&theZepTwins on Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:03 am

[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=qPEo6MyQKdE&mode=related&search=[/url]
Frame by frame live.[/url] the idiosyncratic stylings of King Crimson, from Discipline.
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Postby ant man bee on Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:12 am

King Crimson is one of a very small handful of desert island bands for me. There are scant few groups that constantly reinvented themselves and did it WELL.

There is almost always a Crimson record in my recently played crate...

Oh and they helped guide Don Caballero....
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Postby The Code is Almighty on Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:25 am

When I was younger, my father said I had to listen to 21st Century Schizoid Man. I heard it and was blown away. The open and close of that song is phenomenal. I had a hard time believing that it was so old.

Heard Moonchild in Buffalo '66. Also very good.

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