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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Gramsci on Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:49 am

connor wrote:
Gramsci wrote:The last article was riddled with glaring factual errors that only make it past the editors because I doubt they actually know very much about Brazil.


You mean this article? What was incorrect?

You realize you are saying this person does not "know very much about Brazil":

Wikipedia entry for Alfredo Saad-Filho wrote:Alfredo Saad-Filho, BSc, MSc, PhD, is a Marxian economist. He has degrees in Economics from Universidade de Brasília (Brazil) and the University of London (SOAS), and has taught and researched in universities in Brazil and Mozambique as well as the UK. His research interests include the political economy of development, industrial policy, Latin American political and economic development, inflation and stabilisation, and the labour theory of value and its applications. He is a member of the Deutscher Memorial Prize Committee, an associate editor of the Socialist Register, and a member of the editorial board of the Brazilian Journal of Political Economy, the South Korean journal Marxism 21. He is also a participating editor of Latin American Perspectives, a member of the advisory board of Historical Materialism, and a member of the international editorial board of Studies in Political Economy, among other journals. He held the position of head of department of Development Studies at SOAS between January 2007 and December 2009, and was a Senior Economics Affairs Officer at the UNCTAD Unit on Economic Cooperation and Integration among Developing Countries, in Geneva, Switzerland.


Actually, no. That article was published by us at Brasil Wire first then picked up by Jacobin a few days later. And was a very positive change in tone.

http://www.brasilwire.com/overthrowing- ... s-winning/

Sean Purdy's* article was the problem. He is an activist for the marginally to the left PSOL party and basically wrote a propaganda piece for his particular party. There is some "internal" politics going there as PSOL are trying to line themselves up as a "real left" alternative to the Workers' Party when in reality they are a tiny voice with limited links to the social movements and trade unions that the Workers' Party have been deeply involved with for decades.

The real hope for the left in Brazil is a renewed Workers' Party with closer relations to parties like PSOL and the PCdoB etc.

Brazilian politics are very complex and party's actually ideological alignment can often not represent "what it says on the box" the Greens for example are a rightwing party in Brazil and the Women's Party is an anti feminist group.

The main beef I've had with Jacobin and their Brazil coverage is a tendency to run anti-Workers' Party left articles that don't really offer a deep understanding of the Workers' Party and what they had to do to get through their social program between 2002-2010 in the face of hysterical opposition from almost every quarter in Brazil's elites to even minor progressive policies. Anyhoo, the Saad-Filho article says more than I need to about this...

*I've chatted with Sean and like him, this isn't personal at all. I just think he was promoting his particular position based on his Party's current attempt to become a new viable left alternative in Brazil.

Anyway, Overall I really like Jacobin and yes there have been good articles on Brazil but, there has been a tendency to push a slightly an incorrect position that the Workers' Party are a "false left" party and that PSOL will step into the gap. When things are far more complicated than that.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Clyde on Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:32 am

matthew wrote:I still think you and I need to sit down and have a coffee and conversation sometime, Connor.


Matty, I can see that you are sincere in this request but there is one small detail that I think you've neglected to consider in your offer and that's that the two the of you live several states apart.
I want to help facilitate this little kaffeeklatsch/kulturkamp of yours though, so let's discuss terms. I assume you're unwilling to meet Connor in New York because the large Jewish population will make you uncomfortable. And I assume Connor is unwilling to travel to North Dakota because...well, it's North Dakota. What if the the two of you meet somewhere in the middle? I was thinking Howell, Michigan which has something for both of you. The state of Michigan should appeal to connor because of its rich history of industrial unions such as the IWW. And Howell should appeal to you because of its close association with the KKK. I've already contacted the Uptown Coffeehouse to let them know they should be expecting the two of you. Drinks are on me.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby connor on Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:37 am

Clyde wrote:
matthew wrote:I still think you and I need to sit down and have a coffee and conversation sometime, Connor.


Matty, I can see that you are sincere in this request but there is one small detail that I think you've neglected to consider in your offer and that's that the two the of you live several states apart.
I want to help facilitate this little kaffeeklatsch/kulturkamp of yours though, so let's discuss terms. I assume you're unwilling to meet Connor in New York because the large Jewish population will make you uncomfortable. And I assume Connor is unwilling to travel to North Dakota because...well, it's North Dakota. What if the the two of you meet somewhere in the middle? I was thinking Howell, Michigan which has something for both of you. The state of Michigan should appeal to connor because of its rich history of industrial unions such as the IWW. And Howell should appeal to you because of its close association with the KKK. I've already contacted the Uptown Coffeehouse to let them know they should be expecting the two of you. Drinks are on me.

This is like asking Jodi Foster to have a sit-down with John Hinckley.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Clyde on Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:39 am

Aren't they dating now? I thought I read that somewhere.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby connor on Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:46 am

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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Boombats on Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:52 am

matthew did say he was in a car accident recently.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Wood Goblin on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:02 pm

That's incredibly tasteless and gross.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Wood Goblin on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:05 pm

That story, I mean. I don't see any purpose at all in posting it except to humiliate someone.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Clyde on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:07 pm

Yeah, I'm all for mocking Matthew but doxing is shitty.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby connor on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:09 pm

Clyde wrote:Yeah, I'm all for mocking Matthew but doxing is shitty.

I'll delete assuming Matthew is done with his snide, dickless shit-talking. Also, I didn't "dox" him. No one hacked his personal info.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Gramsci on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:13 pm

Considering how far Matthew has come from our resident Swivel-eyed Mel Gibsonesque Catholic Neo Con, to an often astute liberal-ish atheist/agnostic maybe cut the guy a little slack.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby connor on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:15 pm

Being a somewhat "public" person who posts here, I'm in a weird position I'm only recently getting used to: me/my friends are public; anons on the internet are not. It has resulted in certain banned forum members celebrating/dismissing the outing of my wife as a rape survivor at Newsweek (part of a coordinated antisocialist smear campaign pushed by several neocon thinktanks in 2014) both here on the PRF and on social media -- it's now some weird jihad with one ex-PRF'er. Something that, even in a recent glowing write-up, is still mentioned by name. It won't go away and it won't be forgotten. It drives me up the wall but I guess that's how it is.

So frankly this whole "your life, your work is fair game, but some asshole who wants to talk shit about you for years is not" gets to me but OK, I'll deal with it and move on.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Gramsci on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:20 pm

Connor, I may have missed a longer narrative here.. apologies if that's the case.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Clyde on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:30 pm

Really sorry that's happening, Connor. Which asshole forum member(s)? (Forum names only, obv.)
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby connor on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:31 pm

Clyde wrote:Really sorry that's happening, Connor. Which asshole forum member(s)? (Forum names only, obv.)

It's over and done with at least on the PRF -- Steve booted the person both times.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Boombats on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:41 pm

It was Kimyetta
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby jimmy spako on Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:43 pm

If someone is at the same time like "I'm so and so from so and so, man, look me up" and still acts like an anonymous douche on here, and uses whatever people share here solely for ad hominems and is above actually engaging as a full human being in good faith, then that's what happens.

Also Matthew has said such things as "America does not need minorities" in a context where it was clear that that was his opinion over the past couple days. He's a racist troll who gets off on people trying to convert him.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby Johnny C on Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:10 am

Matthew, much respect and all the best to you in your personal life, but your posts in this thread are terrible and only succeeded in reminding me to renew my Jacobin subscription
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby matthew on Wed May 25, 2016 8:11 pm

Hey I read your recent Jacobin piece, Connor. This one:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/05/whit ... ry-racism/

Not bad, but not exactly news. You're behind the times.

Did you read the thing I linked in the Idiot: Donald Trump thread?

That writer's way ahead of you, and many of your chums at your magazine.
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Re: Magazine: Jacobin

Postby bishopdante on Wed May 25, 2016 11:11 pm

big_dave wrote:
connor wrote:(part of a coordinated antisocialist smear campaign pushed by several neocon thinktanks in 2014)


This shit makes my blood boil...

...organized Livejournal and 4Chan harassment and "trolling" campaigns back in the '00s, then suddenly they're part of organized post-Occupy anti-feminist and anti-socialist groups...


There are many questions.

big_dave wrote:...Because I'm mostly Anon but...


It's very hard to be hidden from the "five eyes" these days. It's one thing to be hidden from easy public access, but I believe it is very hard to be truly anonymised in the era of the internet.

big dave wrote:...getting their "dox" and info on reds...


That's been going on for a while in various ways...

big_dave wrote:The culture of denial around corporate funding of certain online advocacy groups and their ties to social media corporations, consultancies and free market thinktanks


...and... paramilitary/clandestine agencies.

_________

There's an elephant in the room.

Almost nobody knows about how murky information technology has been since before the Internet.

Here's a story from the '80s that appeared in wired in '93.:

http://www.wired.com/1993/01/inslaw/

The problem with data or software is... it's very portable, information in itself is weightless. The more information that's collected... the easier it is for somebody else to collect.

Copying or piracy... it would seem it's not just people copying music...

Stuff can go out the back door as well as out the front. Copying is very hard to detect.

The story is about a database-integration tool designed for the department of justice which was lifted from the Department of Justice, the sanctioned company who developed the software was bankrupted, and the software repurposed as a scary big-brother tool for tracking political dissidents, manipulating legal cases... all sorts.

Designed as a case-management system for prosecutors, PROMIS had the ability to track people. "Every use of PROMIS in the court system is tracking people," said Inslaw President Hamilton. "You can rotate the file by case, defendant, arresting officer, judge, defense lawyer, and it's tracking all the names of all the people in all the cases."


But the real power of PROMIS, according to Hamilton, is that with a staggering 570,000 lines of computer code, PROMIS can integrate innumerable databases without requiring any reprogramming. In essence, PROMIS can turn blind data into information. And anyone in government will tell you that information, when wielded with finesse, begets power. Converted to use by intelligence agencies, as has been alleged in interviews by ex-CIA and Israeli Mossad agents, PROMIS can be a powerful tracking device capable of monitoring intelligence operations, agents and targets, instead of legal cases.


Asked why Israeli intelligence would have been so interested in Inslaw and PROMIS, Ben Menashe said, "PROMIS was a very big thing for us guys, a very, very big thing … it was probably the most important issue of the '80s because it just changed the whole intelligence outlook. The whole form of intelligence collection changed. This whole thing changed it." PROMIS, Ben Menashe said, was perfect for tracking Palestinians and other political dissidents.


Using the computers in his command center, North tracked dissidents and potential troublemakers within the United States as part of a domestic emergency preparedness program, commissioned under Reagan's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), according to sources and published reports. Using PROMIS, sources point out, North could have drawn up lists of anyone ever arrested for a political protest, for example, or anyone who had ever refused to pay their taxes. Compared to PROMIS, Richard Nixon's enemies list or Sen. Joe McCarthy's blacklist look downright crude. This operation was so sensitive that when Rep. Jack Brooks asked North about it during the Iran-Contra hearings, the hearing was immediately suspended pending an executive (secret) conference. When the hearings were reconvened, the issue of North's FEMA dealings was dropped.


the willful destruction of a company, the plundering of its software, the illegal resale of that software to further foreign policy objectives, and the overt obstruction of justice


Freelance reporter Danny Casolaro spent the last few years of his life investigating a pattern which he called "The Octopus." According to Casolaro, Inslaw was only part of a greater story of how intelligence agencies, the Department of Justice and even the mob had subverted the government and its various functions for their own profit.

Casolaro had hoped to write a book based on his reporting. His theories, which some seasoned investigative journalists have described as naive, led him into a Bermuda Triangle of spooks, guns, drugs and organized crime. On August 10th, 1991, he was found dead in a Martinsburg, W. Va., hotel room.


Casolaro's death has only deepened the mystery surrounding Inslaw. Among the more unusual aspects of his death: He had gone to Martinsburg to meet an informant whose name he never revealed. He had called home the afternoon before his death to say he would be late for a family gathering. Martinsburg police allowed his body to be embalmed before family members were notified and warned hotel employees not to speak to reporters. The hotel room was immediately scrubbed by a cleaning service. Casolaro had told several friends and his brother that if anything ever happened to him, not to believe it was an accident. And his notes, which witnesses saw him carry into the hotel, were missing.

His death was ruled a suicide by Martinsburg and West Virginia authorities several months later. Friends, relatives and some investigators still cry foul.


Chilling.

Suffice to say the computer power of 2016 is quite different to a VAX machine in the '80s.

Some people have very big budgets.
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