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Postby bigc on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:24 pm

BadComrade wrote:Have you ever listened to Wild Planet by the B-52s, or do you just hate them for the stupid "Rock Lobster" and "Love Shack" songs? If you can only answer "yes" to the latter, then I understand.

I've got a B-52's live bootleg that will slay your fucking face off... After hearing it for the first time, I realized that Ricky Wilson's guitar playing was never properly captured on record, or the band's true energy for that matter.

The B52's were not a "shitty band".

Fuck, now I have to upload that B-52's show to the gmail account, cause I know someone out there's gonna wanna hear it.

I have to cop to the fact that I hate them for everything I have heard, even the albums that people have said were the 'good ones'. I dont' know the names, so it's entirely possible that there are 'good ones' that I would like.
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Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:25 pm

so are you saying you dislike the music in an ironic way?
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Postby bigc on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:28 pm

kerble wrote:so are you saying you dislike the music in an ironic way?

Huh?

I dislike it because it sounds like shit.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby itchy mcgoo on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:30 pm

vockins wrote:I know this band sucks.

Steely Dan is elevator music. You know how I know that? I hear it in elevators.

It is a soundtrack to buying carrots. I don't give a shit if the lyrics are about setting Jimmy Carter on fire and getting a Khmer Rouge donkey to fuck the carbonized corpse in the ass. People open home equity loans in Kansas to this band. That's not subversive, that's just fucking CRAP.

(Is subversive code for crap now?)

The namechecking this band does is nauseating. It appeals to some kind of comic book store mentality - a series of in jokes designed to keep let everyone that owns the decoder ring into the secret Steely Dan Skull & Bones society. I could care less about Bard and that fucking train. Namechecking Charle Parker doesn't make the band any better. My rock-n-roll doesn't need a goddamn owner's manual. Steely Dan should namecheck Walgreens on the next record, since 99% of their audience associates "Reelin' In The Years" with getting a prescription filled or buying some paper towels.

CRAP, with the exception of the previously maligned "My Old School", which is great.


Salut, vockins.
This is tremendous.

The only thing I hate worse than this wretched, slick, utterly fucking worthless band is the chorus of it's minions telling me "I don't get it". Fuck. You.

I get it.
It's CRAP. The worst CRAP i have ever heard. I would ride Greyhound for six months straight through the American South than have to hear an entire album side of this coked-out musicless music.

Utilizing "subversion" is a dim trick anyway.
Ooooh, they're sneaking in sleaze and middle America doesn't get it! Ha!Ha!

This is no acheivement, chooches!

How much of rock n' roll is about sex and drugs and weird underbellies? You're creating value in hidden messages to justify your love of souless jass rock!

Steaming pile, this band. THE WORST.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:34 pm

I was just foolin, bigc, since you copped to unawaredness about B52s.




No?

would that invalidate:

vockins wrote:Foolproof asshole tests:

1. Doesn't like the Minutemen




[winky]


nitpickingly yours,



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Postby Maurice on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:36 pm

BadComrade wrote:Fuck, now I have to upload that B-52's show to the gmail account, cause I know someone out there's gonna wanna hear it.

You're right.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I ask you: What the fuck?
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:53 pm

vockins wrote:
kerble wrote:would that invalidate:

vockins wrote:Foolproof asshole tests:

1. Doesn't like the Minutemen



The Minutemen don't require the manual.


nor does Steely Dan require the fan-built site you linked to, compadre.

it's some jackass making some dumb website to let people know what a "54 Strat" is when they refer to it in a song. it's a point of reference that has nothing to do with the music, just like the Pedrospeak glossary for Minutemen/Watt lyrics.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby scott on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:00 pm

itchy mcgoo wrote:...this coked-out musicless music.


Um, you just called Steely Dan "musicless". What exactly qualifies something as musicful? I think you kinda picked a bad choice of words here. Their skill as musicians and the density of some of their compositions and relative sparsity of others makes it kinda tough to call them "musicless" and not seem, um, like somebody who doesn't understand what the word "music" actually means.

What *specifically* does a music-ful band deliver that these guys don't? Melodies? Harmonies? Straight-up rock songs? Horn sections? Face-melting guitar solos?

They kinda have all of that stuff.

PS - I :heart: you, but seriously, "musicless"? C'mon. C'mon.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:02 pm

itchy mcgoo wrote:The only thing I hate worse than this wretched, slick, utterly fucking worthless band is the chorus of it's minions telling me "I don't get it". Fuck. You.

I get it.
It's CRAP. The worst CRAP i have ever heard. I would ride Greyhound for six months straight through the American South than have to hear an entire album side of this coked-out musicless music.


recall the "either you like it or don't" paradigm I pointed out in my first post on this thread. I don't think you 'dont' get it', I just think you 'don't like it'. s'fine.

Utilizing "subversion" is a dim trick anyway.
Ooooh, they're sneaking in sleaze and middle America doesn't get it! Ha!Ha!

This is no acheivement, chooches!


no kidding. It's just funny.

How much of rock n' roll is about sex and drugs and weird underbellies? You're creating value in hidden messages to justify your love of souless jass rock!


this is the stuff you saying I no like. why do you think any of the arguing that's gone on has been a justification? I think it follows back to the 'people enjoy music ironically' thing. I don't have to teach myself to like 'em, I just do. No justification necessary.


try again!



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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby scott on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:07 pm

vockins wrote:Well, OK then, next time I'm in line at the bank waiting to deposit my check or I'm buying some diapers, I'll reevaluate.


So what you're implying here is that any band that is played in muzak form is intrinsically a CRAP band. Can you not think of one band that you've heard in muzak form that you would consider good? Maybe a Mowtown band, or Dylan or the Beatles or CCR or somebody? No? Okay, carry on then.

Doude, your logic here is totally pretzel!!

BOOYAH!!!

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Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:13 pm

Cleanup in Aisle Number Nine!.....Number Nine!.....Number Nine!.......
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:16 pm

vockins wrote:
kerble wrote:
The Minutemen don't require the manual.


nor does Steely Dan require the fan-built site you linked to, compadre.
Then why, like Itchy, do people tell me I don't get it? Why the protracted analysis of the goofy lyrics, even in this very thread?



because those people are annoying. the lyrical analysis is because people come here to dork out about music, no? s'funny.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:18 pm

BadComrade wrote:
kerble wrote: just like the Pedrospeak glossary for Minutemen/Watt lyrics.


Holy fuck, Kerble. I just read that after posting about mine. I think you and me are the only two people in the world that know about that thing... Or wait... did I just steal it out of a store bought copy of "Mr. Machinery Operator and -think- it was "promo only"?


I had one too. I got it from the counter of some record store when I was in high-school. def. promo. I linked to it earlier in response to vockins' "My Rock N Roll doesn't need a Manual"
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby oyrgawd on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:19 pm

scott wrote:
vockins wrote:Well, OK then, next time I'm in line at the bank waiting to deposit my check or I'm buying some diapers, I'll reevaluate.


So what you're implying here is that any band that is played in muzak form is intrinsically a CRAP band. Can you not think of one band that you've heard in muzak form that you would consider good? Maybe a Mowtown band, or Dylan or the Beatles or CCR or somebody? No? Okay, carry on then.

Doude, your logic here is totally pretzel!!

BOOYAH!!!

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And it's a scam, and against nature, and must go.

For my part, I love it when a Dan tune comes on the overhead speakers when I'm shopping for a white belt or cereal. It's a treat. I sing along.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:19 pm

oyrgawd wrote:when I'm shopping for a white belt



haha. liar.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby oyrgawd on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:24 pm

kerble wrote:
oyrgawd wrote:when I'm shopping for a white belt



haha. liar.


I shit you not. The first time I heard anything from the stellar Morph The Cat was in Marshall Field's when I was looking for a white belt to go with my seersucker suit. Found a nice chapeau right there too.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby kerble on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:31 pm

oyrgawd wrote:
kerble wrote:
oyrgawd wrote:when I'm shopping for a white belt



haha. liar.


I shit you not. The first time I heard anything from the stellar Morph The Cat was in Marshall Field's when I was looking for a white belt to go with my seersucker suit. Found a nice chapeau right there too.


oh. ok. I was thinking of the white belts the emo kids love these days, (not suit couture), and it didn't make any sense.

Morph is good, though?
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby itchy mcgoo on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:31 pm

Scott-

I stand by "musicless". Of course the word is retarded. Steely Dan warrants the creation of a new, completely retarded word because attempting to discuss their music is like trying to discuss Joan Rivers' natural beauty. Just about impossible with our limited lexicon.
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Postby Into the Void on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:34 pm

Absolute shit, pure and simple.
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Re: Rikki / Clapton / Heroin

Postby oyrgawd on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:34 pm

kerble wrote:
oyrgawd wrote:
kerble wrote:
oyrgawd wrote:when I'm shopping for a white belt



haha. liar.


I shit you not. The first time I heard anything from the stellar Morph The Cat was in Marshall Field's when I was looking for a white belt to go with my seersucker suit. Found a nice chapeau right there too.


oh. ok. I was thinking of the white belts the emo kids love these days, (not suit couture), and it didn't make any sense.

Morph is good, though?


I've had Morph The Cat on heavy rotation for weeks now. Don goes nuts with the vocal layering and harmonies. Very good. Very smooth.

Sample it here.
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