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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby M.H on Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:40 pm

Aw. All the early stuff is super cute. It's infantile to the point where it becomes sort of adorable, in a 'let's play dress up' kind of way.

Ministry = Al and Al = Crap, but the period from ...Rape And Honey to The Mind... (especially those awesome side projects and RevCo) is serious guilty pleasure territory. I'll give him a degree of credit for surrounding himself with some very talented people during this phase. Good taste in drummers. But the later guitar heavy stuff (Psalm 69, Filth Pig etc...) has not aged well. I remember rating the sludgy smack period, but it just sounds plain bad now.

Shamelessly stupid pop music can be fun, but the obnoxious, shallow posing gets increasingly tricky to ignore, and even the stronger tunes are devoid of the trashy, kinky charm that a lot of the best WaxTrax stuff has. Growing up sucks.

Ministry = Crap.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby atomjackfuser on Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:38 am

M.H wrote:Ministry = Al and Al = Crap, but the period from ...Rape And Honey to The Mind... (especially those awesome side projects and RevCo) is serious guilty pleasure territory. I'll give him a degree of credit for surrounding himself with some very talented people during this phase.


Yeah, I noticed on Discogs that all the good/decent songs on Mind were written by Chris Connelly.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby M.H on Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:16 am

atomjackfuser wrote: Yeah, I noticed on Discogs that all the good/decent songs on Mind were written by Chris Connelly.


To be fair to Mr Jourgensen, in Chris Connelly's excellent autobiography he talks about the drug fuelled collaborative process that generated that music. Nearly everything was written in the studio. But I don't think Chris did more than sing lead on a few songs and work on the lyrics w/ Al and Ogre from Skinny Puppy. The music (and more importantly the mixing) was mostly Al and Paul.

I stand by my crap vote, but ...Rape and Honey, The Mind... , the live recordings from the Mind tour (official releases and bootlegs) and the excellent Side Trax comp are all great.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby taylor swiftboat orgy on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:17 pm

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby enframed on Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:40 pm

Vinyl reissue of Mind sounds fucking phenomenal. I'll always love this record.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby biscuitdough on Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:45 am

Al is crap. Three or four Ministry albums are not crap.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby milkmeat on Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:30 am

There's a lot that's crap about this band, from early accent-aping to the embarrassing recent output. They had a strong run of albums, and yeah, I will include some of Twitch (All Day is a great song). Even that perennial goth dance floor filler about Halloween is pretty good, dire fucking lyrics about living with lizards notwithstanding.

A lot of this band's output hits me in a way that I can't explain. They are absolutely ridiculous. But they made a lot of songs I really, really like. Not crap.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby AnthonyVillalobos on Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:13 am

This band is to metal what ICP is to rap.

Total dogshit.

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby mgentry66 on Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:43 pm

Heaviest band to ever live. Eat you alive and leave you for dead heavy. My buddy worked in Uncle Bucks studio, during the Filth Pig album, in Chicago. Al's drug dealer comes to the studio to deliver drugs, crack, H, who knows what, the dealer ODs while in the studio, Al says, "let em' die"... dead serious like. Everyone else freaks out Don't get no heavier than that.

He may be an asshole, he may have raped your dog while he was high, he may have been a girl scout sell out, his shit is as heavy as it gets. All lead in that sack. Plus, come on, unless you're an asshole, his records are insane heavy and thought provoking. And come on, Paul Barker, give it up....

Actually, I hope no one ever likes them so then they are all mine. Too heavy for the post punk cliche and too weird for the metal kids.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby El Protoolio on Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:19 pm

No. That's all pretty much bullshit. Other than the parts about him being a scum bag and probably the dead junkie story but there is no way any of the rest of that is correct.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby mgentry66 on Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:56 am

So I ran into said buddy tonight who did the Filth Pig album and I asked him about said story, again. He corrected me on what Al actually said. Quote, "roll him up and throw him in the dumpster" is more correct.

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby enframed on Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:40 am

Marsupialized wrote:
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Great song. Great cover art for the single, too.

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby Anthony Flack on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:32 am

mgentry66 wrote:Al's drug dealer comes to the studio to deliver drugs, crack, H, who knows what, the dealer ODs while in the studio, Al says, "let em' die"... dead serious like. Everyone else freaks out Don't get no heavier than that.


Isn't that just being a horrible human being? What's so heavy about that? A heavy liability for the people who have to be around him, I suppose.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby Marsupialized on Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:26 pm

I think he may have had a stroke at some point, it's sad to see, there's definitely something wrong with him, it's not just booze or whatever:

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby Mark Hansen on Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:24 pm

Al Jourgensen IS a stroke.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby nonstoptaco on Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:32 pm

I'm laughing.

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby Marsupialized on Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:50 pm

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby travis k on Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:31 pm

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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby Boombats on Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:39 pm

It's not as bad as that 99 Percenters video.
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Re: Band: Ministry

Postby Gas Station Carnivals on Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:17 pm

They were a lot better when they were called Big Black.
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