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Band: Smashing Pumpkins

Postby instant_zen on Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:01 pm

In my opinion, the Smashing Pumkins are anything but crap. They are one of the only bands that I feel have successfully mass-marketed what I think is good music. Even if they hadn't blown up and had just stayed in Chicago, I think their performance and their music was almost set up to be on a major label. This fact alone might qualify them as "crap" for some, but I think that just because something is popular, it is not always wrong. Just remember, Husker Du always said "getting popular is not the same as selling out".
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Postby itchy on Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:28 pm

"our band is breaking up"

"we're back together"

"we're breaking up again"

"we're back together again"

"we're breaking up again"

"we're back together again, but calling ourselves something different and hoping to dupe people into thinking we have a new sound"

who are we?

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS!!!!!

music = not too bad, but billy corgan's incessant yearning for attention makes me sick. CRAP.
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Postby Mayfair on Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:27 am

I must say Willy's delivery bugs the crap out of me. It's so whiny and melodramatic...ON EVERY DAMN SONG! I just could never get past that.

Always seemed like a 'video band' to me, mostly for little girls to like. Although they may be nice folks, I keep coming up with 'crap'.

So 'crap' I will leave it.
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Postby offal on Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:30 am

First of all: Crap.

However, I feel I need to give some sort of props for their drummer Jimmy Chamberlain, because he was really good. Yeah, so he came off like a jerk in interviews, and he was in a crappy band, but the guy could play. Some of the single-stroke rolls on "gish" are the only reason I've kept my copy of that cassette all these years. Really, really nice.

But oh well. Crap notheleless.
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Postby Dylan on Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:11 am

CRAP all the way around. I'm told the drummer is really good, but I can't listen to the band without hearing the crap elements shining through. I wish I could.
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Postby Mr. Chimp on Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:13 am

At one point in time, Gish was an album that could not be beat. The preceeding singles, and the 4 song thingy that came after never escaped the fact that BC was (is) a whiny nasal singer. This made a very nice square with Skunk's Laid, Walt Mink's Miss Happiness and Monster Magnet's Spine of God.

The balance and excecution was much better on Gish than on subsequent recordings. In fact, Gish was the reason that if you had heard/liked Nirvana pre-1991, you were excited - "No shit, Nirvana's recording with Vig? That shit's gonna be huge!" Ahem. Of course we are all older and wiser now, and on Vig's second record with the SP, and forward on all that followed, you could actually hear all the digital processing and compression.

But nothing changes the fact that Chamberlin is a monster, and Corgan is a good guitar player. Can't help the fact that he uses his powers for evil. And even though I liked that Disarm song once in the context of the record, it remains a top example of an overblown egocentric piece of shit.

Gosh, I guess I really do dislike them now. One CD comp of early stuff still plays nicely on a loud stereo, but aside from that,

Smashing Pumpkins = A GIANT FROZEN OVERPROCESSED ICEBERG OF CRAP
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Postby geiginni on Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:27 pm

Monster Magnet's Spine of God!

Man...that one takes me back. I never thought I could laugh so hard whilst being rocked just as hard (the "jazz cigarettes" certainly helped this, I'm sure). Every classic metal cliche executed with such love and tenderness - pure gold!

Back to the SP's though - Pure smooth brown, stinking, corn-speckled CRAP!
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Postby Angry_Dragon on Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:47 pm

CRAP :WF:2

I did like that second record.
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Postby tmidgett on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:41 pm

very bad band

crap
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Postby John W. on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:52 pm

Yeah, B.C.'s whine just annoys me. I am instantly angry when I hear it. I hate the way he slowly blinks his eyes in videos. I talked to James ages ago, a couple of times way back before the band was big; he seemed pretty cool. Still, it's Billy's crap band.

"The killer in me is the killer in you." Fuck off.
"Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage." Again, fuck off.
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Postby mattw on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:32 pm

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Postby Angry_Dragon on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:36 pm

"The mall is a vampire..."
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Postby Brett Eugene Ralph on Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:05 pm

"1979" is a very good single. I always enjoy hearing it on the radio. That song is NOT CRAP.

Everything else I've heard=CRAP.

To illustrate why, a conversational excerpt:

Dave Pajo: Brett, man, you should meet Billy. He was into the same stuff we were into growing up, like Maiden and 80's metal and weird 70's rock bands and punk rock and shit.

Brett Eugene Ralph: [...]

Dave Pajo: Zwan is gonna rock so much harder than Smashing Pumpkins did.

Brett Eugene Ralph: Cool. But that guy's still gonna be the singer, right?

Dave Pajo: [...]
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Postby Angry_Dragon on Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:12 pm

Thank you, Mr. Ralph.
Eventhough that made me snort juice out of my nose.
Thank you.
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Postby drew on Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:45 pm

Despite all my rage, I'm still just a bald man on stage...
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Postby Heliotropic on Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:04 pm

They were my favorite band when I was in elementary school, so I feel a bit of nostalgia whenever I listen to their records. They were the first band I really got into as a kid, so even if I didn't still like their music I would vote not crap regardless.
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Postby The Code is Almighty on Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:31 pm

There are a few a songs that I think I enjoy, Mayonaise being one of them, but whenever I hear them I feel physically ill like I've just eaten McDonalds.

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Postby Antero on Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:46 pm

Gish - Not Crap
Siamese Dream - Not Crap, no fucking way.
Mellon Collie - Not Crap with a stack of waffles. Why the shit would anyone record, like, "We Only Come Out At Night"? What the fuck, seriously?
Adore - Crap
Machina - MASSIVE CRAP MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED
Machina II - Not Crap! Was Corgan fucking conspiring to ruin his career or something? Why didn't they release this shit! If you've heard the songs they didn't record with Zwan, too, you wonder why the hell they recorded a lot of the stuff they did. Corgan must have had a fucking aneurysm or something, I don't know. The point is, I cut out all the shitty stuff on Machina II, and it fits on one disc and is actually pretty fucking awesome.

Jimmy Chamberlain - Not Crap. Oh man.

Billy Corgan's voice - Crap, BUT the fact that his voice was so fucking screechy actually kept down the melodrama. Imagine him with a classically trained voice, complete with vibrato and well formed vowels? Hair metal cheese, instantly!

Billy Corgan's wall of fuzz - Not Crap.

The Smashing Pumpkins in total - Damn good.
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Postby Limmo on Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:01 pm

What Antero said, pretty much verbatim. Though I did like a few songs off of Machina.
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Postby mattw on Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:43 pm

OK.

I have listened to Pisces Escariot just shortly before selling, and I shall admit, she bring me pain! Pain and happy. Ah, the sweet bird of youth! This record, she remind me of the summer when I was a young mattw. Again, too, I hear Siamese Dream recently- I hear 'Rocket' and think, too, Smashing Pumpkin were good.

Maybe Mellon Collie is when Billy's pumpkin head got too big for his body, but didn't he play most of what Siamese Dream?
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