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Bernie Sanders running for POTUS

Crap - He's not fit for the job and/or it's "a wasted vote."
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Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Dave//Eksvplot on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:07 pm

We've got a poll on Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders here, but now that there's more and more talk of him possibly running for POTUS, I figure a poll regarding his viability as a presidential candidate is in order. This might seem premature as he hasn't made an official announcement yet, but I'm curious what people think.

Sanders hasn't said yet whether he'd run as an Independent or a Democrat.

He's said he wouldn't run as a symbolic gesture (to raise awareness about various issues knowing he wouldn't win), but only if he thought he had a fighting chance.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby enframed on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:10 pm

"Not fit for the job" might be just the qualification we need right now.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Dave//Eksvplot on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:18 pm

It's worth noting that if Sanders "isn't fit for the job" it's not in the same sense as a previous underdog candidate like Ralph Nader.

Unlike Nader, Sanders can communicate well, doesn't look like his dog just died, and has a history of working in a political office.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby kaleb on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:42 pm

I'm leery of the spoiler effect, and I would prefer to see a lot more voices like his at the state and congressional level before putting a lot of resources into a presidential campaign, but I'm pro-Bernie at this point.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby jimmy two hands on Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:23 pm

Not crap as long as he doesn't go third party. I'm not at all jazzed about another neoliberal centrist democrat in the White House, but I'll take a Hillary presidency over any of the nitwit goobers the republican field has to offer.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Chromodynamic on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:10 pm

I think he's in a unique position where he could win by plurality, if he runs as an independent; can he run as a democrat if the democrats select someone like Hillary Clinton? If he runs, I'll vote for him and maybe even volunteer.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby numberthirty on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:49 pm

jimmy two hands wrote:Not crap as long as he doesn't go third party. I'm not at all jazzed about another neoliberal centrist democrat in the White House, but I'll take a Hillary presidency over any of the nitwit goobers the republican field has to offer.


Not crap. No exception.

If you can't beat the living shit out of your "Fake" right opponent with your "Fake" left platform, you deserve to get your ass handed to you along with the little bit worse of people wind up being if a "Nitwit Goober" winds up in office.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby stewie on Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:08 pm

Bernie as President would be fucking awesome. Like a revved-up Carter for this decade.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby lemur68 on Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:27 pm

It's a cute idea but he's old as fuck and will probably die his second year in office.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby enframed on Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:06 pm

lemur68 wrote:It's a cute idea but he's old as fuck and will probably die his second year in office.


The he better put some serious thought into his VP.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby djimbe on Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:32 pm

so many people, people who are "educated" and "professional" and shit like that might actually hear what he says and reject it out of hand. Normal seeming, rational people that you likely know and work around. People that you wouldn't in a million years believe would freak the fuck out if faced with a guy who thinks that a 45% tax bracket for people who make over a million a year (people your work colleagues will NEVER be) will FREAK THE FUCK OUT and not vote for him. Because he's a socialist and socialism means the USSR and those people are BAD.

Seriously. I work in a USWA affiliated factory with over 400 union employees and most of them would think Sen. Sanders is a kook not worth the time of day. Union members. LABOR FFS. Think he's straight up nuts and will want to take their land and money and guns and shit. The amount of pro-Sarah Palin/Rush Limbaugh stuff I see every day, to this day, confirms this belief. From dues paying Union members. Boggles the mind. Never gonna happen...
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Gramsci on Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:06 pm

jimmy two hands wrote:Not crap as long as he doesn't go third party. I'm not at all jazzed about another neoliberal centrist democrat in the White House, but I'll take a Hillary presidency over any of the nitwit goobers the republican field has to offer.


Last election the GOP basically ended up with the "The Only One that Wasn't Crazy"... prior McCain, who's basically a Democrat in all but name.

I'd say Sanders would be better running on a Democrat ticket and going for the primaries.

Next election will be interesting.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Justin Foley on Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:36 pm

Gramsci wrote:Next election will be interesting.


The next Presidential election will be depressing. Clinton will run for the Dems and the only hope for her is that she's secure and established enough that if she does end up winning, she'll do something unexpected and wonderful because she'll have the political space to actually do it. I'm not ... I'm not holding my breath.

The Republicans will puke up something vile and who knows, maybe it'll win.

It will not be interesting.

(Please someone bump this thread when I'm proven wrong.)

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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Dave//Eksvplot on Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:38 am

krs wrote:The country isn't ready.


That's more or less what I was getting at with the "Crap" option.

I would definitely like to see him as President, but it might be a kind of pipedream at this point.

Still, if one's ideal candidate runs, it would be absurd not to show any support.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Marsupialized on Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:39 am

Paul Ryan will be their candidate with Rubio nominated as Vice, I'd put money on it.
Long shot would be Rand Paul in there somewhere.

Bernie Sanders is a complete non-entity in this.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby Gramsci on Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:32 pm

Marsupialized wrote:Paul Ryan will be their candidate with Rubio nominated as Vice, I'd put money on it.
Long shot would be Rand Paul in there somewhere.

Bernie Sanders is a complete non-entity in this.


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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby eephour on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:07 pm

Col. Sanders has a better shot, but shit, I wouldn't mind having a Vermonter in highest office in the land.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby numberthirty on Wed May 28, 2014 11:56 pm

Got to say I haven't been a fan of the way he's been handling what's coming out about the VA. The radio appearance(with vet call ins) last week put a pretty big dent in any respect I had for the guy.
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby prowler on Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:47 pm

so is he gonna win or what?
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Re: Crap / Not Crap: Bernie Sanders 2016 Presidential Bid

Postby i am the smud on Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:40 pm

Don't know, but I'll vote for him.
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