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Postby bdm on Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:23 am

Before I opened this thread I had no idea who this person was. I still haven't heard a single note played by this person and have yet to actually see her face yet already I am sure I know entirely too much. My life was ever so slightly better before unwittingly opening this thread and certainly as gloomy as it already admittedly is my perception of the world was slightly better as well.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby Stinky Pete on Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:41 am

My fantasy when reading this thread is that we're all watching Amanda in a circus tent pirouetting while a 17 year old girl reads out Toy Operated Boy when, suddenly, GG Allen bursts into the tent and begins slicing everyone up with beer can shrapnel. We all turn to leave, only to realize that the entire back row of the audience is also GG Allen.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby jeff_fox on Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:57 am

Make no mistake, Janeway, she is not one of us. She is a multi millionaire who still chooses to pass the hat to fund her (dumb) art projects. We've all figured out how not to do that. As for her collapsing to the floor after hearing about LC- that's some phony-ass bullshit. I blame her and people like her for Trump.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby bishopdante on Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:25 am

Janeway wrote:^haha so you fantasize that


Long & short of the proposed tongue in cheek mental vision is revenge of gg allin x20 or so in a big top.

Any millions subsidy in a tour budget should be getting musicians paid more than just a pittance, so $0 / social media fame raffle brass section is never something I'd recommend myself.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby Stinky Pete on Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:46 am

I think my inner demon's real point was that, at least as a performance artist, GG was entertaining and knew enough of the words to his songs to get them finished. He also didn't crowdfund and then try to screw everyone around him (figuratively) and yet she's held up as this performance artist who does Ted Talks and GG is a punk rock footnote, when actually she's a messy little troll who makes a living exploiting her fan's patience and belief in her online persona.

The singer in my band took his gf to see her in Dublin a few years back - this, for these girls, would probably be the only opportunity for several years to see her (or possibly even any artist they liked) as no one plays Ireland and if they do you gotta go to Dublin and that's expensive for a teenager. There was girls there who had probably listened to every album, memorizing the words for months, and Amanda strolls in and manages less than 6 songs in 2 hours and she has to google the words for them. Not rehearsing her own songs is an insult to those who came to hear them. I'd appreciate if she stopped switching young girls off from independent music and stayed crying on the floor where she belongs.
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Postby morespaceecho on Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:14 am

wtf did she do for the rest of the 2 hours?
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Postby Marsupialized on Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:39 am

What an amazing position to be in for an artist, you have this creepy, devoted fan base who literally asks NOTHING of you and yet will read great meaning into anything you do. This woman can show up, drunk as balls, high as whatever on whatever, not even take the time get dressed, as we've seen, stumble in and literally ANYTHING she does is not only acceptable, but will be met with thunderous rapture and devotion. You know damn well she could stagger in, slur a few incoherent words, squat and defecate into the stage, fall over backwards, then spend an hour sitting Indian style poking at it with her fingers, repeating the word 'prison' and 'beauty' over and over, and none of those people would question it, not one. 'It was amazing, I am so glad I donated to her Kickstarter for this event, I've never dreamed my emotions could be so validated by an artist'
I am starting to enjoy this whole thing, I am almost certain she's just a straight up con artist and if that is indeed the case, I tip my hat to her and wish her luck squeezing those dipfucks for all they are worth.
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Postby jimmy two hands on Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:31 pm

I think she's pulling some kind of Kaufman level performance art thing to see how far she can go with her gullible fan base while seeing how much she can piss off her non fan base at the same time. She's damn good at it.

To wit: Me and the missus were recently at a museum that had a show that was entirely performance art, and the performance art was entirely devoted to fucking with the audience. The museum didn't advertise that the entire show was a performance art piece and by the time we left the place we were so pissed off that we wasted our time going there and that we paid the $10 admission fee, and then we realized that was the exact reaction the artist wanted - either that or some fawning praise from academics trying to justify why it was worth their time - and we were like, damn, this dude is a genius troll.

I pretty much have the same reaction whenever I read about one of Palmer's projects. Of course the con artist route also works, the boundary between performance artistry and con artistry is an MFA from RISD.
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Postby Anthony Flack on Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:40 pm

jimmy two hands wrote:by the time we left the place we were so pissed off that we wasted our time going there and that we paid the $10 admission fee, and then we realized that was the exact reaction the artist wanted


Now my question to the artist would be... WHY did they want that reaction?

Pissing people off and making them sorry they wasted their time? That's the last thing I want from anybody coming to see anything I do.

Artists who try to piss their audience off, I think a lot of them are using provocation to cover up the fact that they're incapable of evoking a genuine positive response, and so choose to be obnoxious to cover their mediocrity.
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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby jimmy two hands on Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:46 pm

Anthony Flack wrote:
jimmy two hands wrote:by the time we left the place we were so pissed off that we wasted our time going there and that we paid the $10 admission fee, and then we realized that was the exact reaction the artist wanted


Now my question to the artist would be... WHY did they want that reaction?

Pissing people off and making them sorry they wasted their time? That's the last thing I want from anybody coming to see anything I do.

Artists who try to piss their audience off, I think a lot of them are using provocation to cover up the fact that they're incapable of evoking a genuine positive response, and so choose to be obnoxious to cover their mediocrity.


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Postby VaticanShotglass on Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:35 pm

At this point in my life I kinda wish I were shrewd and cynical enough to make bank off my emotional problems. I do not wish I were deluded enough to see any such endeavor as art or of merit, however.
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Postby matthew on Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:17 pm

Anthony Flack wrote:Artists who try to piss their audience off, I think a lot of them are using provocation to cover up the fact that they're incapable of evoking a genuine positive response, and so choose to be obnoxious to cover their mediocrity.


One of the oldest tricks in the rock and roll handbook if you're in a sucky band.

The best bands, regardless of style or whatever, just play their music and treat their live audiences with respect. They don't need to resort to kayfabe-ish sorts of things or overly silly, stupid and theatrical stunts.

They also don't take themselves too seriously...which is probably Ms. Palmer's biggest flaw.
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Postby thelastrewind on Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:39 am

Hey, one upside of Donald Trump's election - a Weimar punk revolution! https://www.theguardian.com/music/austr ... MP=soc_567

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Re: amanda "$1.2m" palmer wants you to play with her for fre

Postby Clyde on Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:19 am

But being an optimist ... there is this part of me – especially having studied Weimar Germany extensively – I’m like, ‘This is our moment.’ Donald Trump is going to make punk rock great again. We’re all going to crawl down staircases into basements and speakeasies and make amazing satirically political art.

“If the political climate keeps getting uglier, the art will have to answer. We will have to fight. It’s already happening – the artists in my tribes have been like, ‘Alright. This is not good.’ We are sharpening our knives for a large buffet.”


Um, Mandy, you might want want to do a quick refresher course on the Weimar Republic, particularly the aftermath.
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Postby garthplinko on Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:09 am

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Postby Boombats on Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:21 am

Clyde wrote:
But being an optimist ... there is this part of me – especially having studied Weimar Germany extensively – I’m like, ‘This is our moment.’ Donald Trump is going to make punk rock great again. We’re all going to crawl down staircases into basements and speakeasies and make amazing satirically political art.

“If the political climate keeps getting uglier, the art will have to answer. We will have to fight. It’s already happening – the artists in my tribes have been like, ‘Alright. This is not good.’ We are sharpening our knives for a large buffet.”


Um, Mandy, you might want want to do a quick refresher course on the Weimar Republic, particularly the aftermath.

She's been whacking off to Weimar Duetschland since the beginning of her career. That flamboyant Cabaret shit is part of her shtick.

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Postby gjp on Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:44 am

...and that she and husband Neil Gaiman have been granted five-year working visas for Australia
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Postby Parbuckle on Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:43 pm

the artists in my tribes have been like, ‘Alright. This is not good.’

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Postby travis k on Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:46 pm

I'm always fascinated when a person's demeanor and general way of being , mirrors their physiology. It's as if they evolved together .
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