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Heliotropic wrote: Personally I've never really been much of a fan of the Minuteman
Rotten Tanx wrote: every time I watch Die Hard (6am and 8pm, mon to sat)...
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rzs wrote:
The Minutemen, to me, are like the movie The Blair Witch Project. A bunch of people about 16 years old or so tell you that such and such a movie or band is so great that you just know it is going to be groundbreaking, or at least good. So you go and check it out and are left thinking "That's It? These people can't be serious. That was CRAP."
Then, when you tell people that it was CRAP they say "But do you realize how little money they spent on making it? That it embodies this anti-corporate entertainment model that shows everyone can do things themselves, apart from the oppressive corporate control of the industry?"
Of course, I think those things are very good. I just think what a shame it was that said movie or band, while embodying an admirable philosophy, is ultimately more CRAP than the average mainstream movie or band.
NerblyBear wrote:rzs wrote:
The Minutemen, to me, are like the movie The Blair Witch Project. A bunch of people about 16 years old or so tell you that such and such a movie or band is so great that you just know it is going to be groundbreaking, or at least good. So you go and check it out and are left thinking "That's It? These people can't be serious. That was CRAP."
Then, when you tell people that it was CRAP they say "But do you realize how little money they spent on making it? That it embodies this anti-corporate entertainment model that shows everyone can do things themselves, apart from the oppressive corporate control of the industry?"
Of course, I think those things are very good. I just think what a shame it was that said movie or band, while embodying an admirable philosophy, is ultimately more CRAP than the average mainstream movie or band.
The Minutemens' music is just wonderful, and it has, for me, little to do with their ethical ideals and their admirable personalities. Mike Watt is such a cool bass player; he comes up with these little, discrete, disjointed, Beefheart-like melodies and then strings them together into a full song. I have never heard another bass player take control over the song's structure like Watt does; maybe TROUT MASK's bass playing is a bit similar. This shouldn't work, but, somehow, it does. And I'm not even mentioning the physical prowess and rhythmic dexterity of the George Hurley.
D. Boon's soloing is so beautiful. I love his thin, serrated guitar tone, which plays wonderfully atop the rumbling bumble of the rhythm section.
Watt's lyrics are also really interesting. On this record, he experimented with cutting out verbs and nouns and just stringing together a bunch of seemingly-unrelated phrases. These phrases make sense after spending some time with the album, and the overarching concept is recognized for what it is. I'd never realized this before, but Watt's lyrical style is sorta the verbal analogue to his bass style.
Yeah, the Minutemen were amazing people and their extra-musical innovations are an inspiration to us all. But the music would still be great if such were not the case.
I love Zen Arcade, as well, but this album is a mindblow.
Marsupialized wrote:
When you listen to The Minutemen and their songs do you pretend you were not a rich kid growing up and that you can really feel and understand what they are talking about?
A pampered rich kid listening to the Minutemen is like a black dude listening to Johnny Rebel or something.
Tis not for you, this music. This music is for the working man!
vockins wrote:Perhaps either/or Double Nickels/travel, Double Nickels/eating, or Double Nickels/love would be tough.
the Classical wrote:some of Mould's lyrics seem ridiculous in a very Rollins-y way
run joe run wrote:Kerble your enthusiasm
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