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Andrew L. wrote:More Kerr-era awesomeness.
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shagboy wrote:i was under-rested when i saw nomeansno on wednesday night... and i couldn't get into the stuff from the new album. didn't stay for the encore. they're really tight... but a lot of the songs are kind of boring
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mackro wrote:What do you guys not like about the new album, just out of curiosity?
(And please don't say "it's horrible" again)
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mackro wrote:........I'm just trying to figure out why I'm relatively alone here...
mackro wrote:Well, it didn't take them five years to make the album. They only started fleshing out the songs in late '05... the entire album went from concept to ship in less than a year. They had taken a studio break for 4 of those years, Hanson Brothers aside.
Mama vibe? Not sure what you mean, as there's lots of guitar on this one and it's very lush, whereas Mama has no guitar at all and sounds really sparse.
And the "no Andy" thing isn't really fair since it's been 15 years since he was last in the band. If this was the first or second Andy-less album, then sure..
I know I'm sounding impetuous, so I apologize... I'm happy to agree to disagree, trust me. And I pretty much love all the records, however Ausfahrt is a Top 3 album for me alongside Wrong and Worldhood, so I'm just trying to figure out why I'm relatively alone here...
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m.koren wrote:-They had 5 years to come up with those songs
m.koren wrote:--By 'vibe' I mean ; a mysterious , spooky voodoo quality, emotional content , and conviction that their early home recordings, 'Mama', and all their Kerr era albums possesed (except Wrong, even Rob said he doesn't like it !).
m.koren wrote:-- If Andy's not on guitar , they could have at least made the effort to find a replacement that pulls his/her weight both creatively and energetically . Tom is great in the Showbiz Giants but that is a VERY different beast.I feel that the brothers need someone who challenges them, rather than a guy who just keeps his mouth shut to earn a paycheck.
m.koren wrote:-- In fact , I remember reading an interview with Rob where he said something like "Anyone can play the guitar parts , we just need a guy who we can get along with on the road". Smells like complacency. I don't know about you Mackro , but I think the music deserves something better than that ?
mackro wrote:OK, now it's debate time! *rubs hands*m.koren wrote:-They had 5 years to come up with those songs
Did you ever think that, possibly, musicians will take breaks from writing music for long periods of time, and that, just maybe, it's OK if they do that?
Can't wait for your "You had SEVEN YEARS to write Excellent Italian Greyhound" review of the new Shellac.m.koren wrote:--By 'vibe' I mean ; a mysterious , spooky voodoo quality, emotional content , and conviction that their early home recordings, 'Mama', and all their Kerr era albums possesed (except Wrong, even Rob said he doesn't like it !).
OK, you like the "spooky" albums or else you don't care. That's your taste/opinion/etc. Although, just out of coincidence, you're the first person I'm ever seen dismiss Wrong for not having conviction.m.koren wrote:-- If Andy's not on guitar , they could have at least made the effort to find a replacement that pulls his/her weight both creatively and energetically . Tom is great in the Showbiz Giants but that is a VERY different beast.I feel that the brothers need someone who challenges them, rather than a guy who just keeps his mouth shut to earn a paycheck.
"Tom keeping his mouth shut just to get a paycheck." Wow. I mean, I don't know where to begin. Aside from maybe Tom's first tour with the band, which would be normal for anyone new joining a band to not act like Ronny James Dio, how did you deduce that Tom keeps his mouth shut for the Wrights just to get paid?m.koren wrote:-- In fact , I remember reading an interview with Rob where he said something like "Anyone can play the guitar parts , we just need a guy who we can get along with on the road". Smells like complacency. I don't know about you Mackro , but I think the music deserves something better than that ?
Quote? Time period? Inducing complacency from a band member based on a quote you recall in a "something likewas said" is pretty fuzzy.
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mackro wrote: If Rob said "we just need *a* guitarist" in one interview at one time, I wouldn't take that too seriously. Had he kept saying this, then I could understand. That's just one of a gazillion examples with this band. But anyway...
Rob Wright wrote:Yes, he had a huge amount of trouble [learning the old songs]. When Tom joined us, he was just a charmer; he wasn't much of a guitar player. I tortured him for about eight weeks before we went on his first tour with us, and it was like pulling teeth. It was terrible. But over the years, of course, he's become very adept as a guitar player. With us, it was more his personality and ability to perform, his sensibility. Those were more important. Anyone can learn how to play an instrument.
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